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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      Where you're getting 3 cases in and 3 cases out per day. Except case counts are now growing at 30% per week, which means the inflow is outpacing the outflow and this becomes unsustainable.

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    2. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      You can't keep up. Maybe you start doing what they were doing what they did in this context in NYC in the spring...you prioritize the oldest cases for contact tracing, trying to catch up...

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    3. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      ...and effectively leaving behind the cases where you might actually be able to expect to meaningful (the more recent cases). Because let's be clear, even without a total logjam and unsustainable levels of contacts to follow up on, CT has been theatre in Ontario for some time...

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    4. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      ...from the point of view of actually controlling disease. Our turn-around times simply aren't quick enough. Let's think about this...

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    5. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      If I have a case who's been reported to me after a several day turn-around time on their test (brown bar below), and who took a few days to get tested (green), but who was infecting when pre-symptomatic (orange)...pic.twitter.com/2jfxKV29Tg

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    6. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      By the time I reach out to their contacts, their contacts' secondary cases are already infecting a tertiary generation of cases! I already missed the boat! Does it sound good? Yeah! Are apps awesome? We love apps! Leaf trombone! Ocarina app! House party!

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    7. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      So we're doing late and ineffective contact tracing on a small fraction of cases, and paying nearly 1000 people to impersonate Lucille Ball in the candy factorypic.twitter.com/aF8cRsHnRl

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    8. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      Can contact tracing be important and impactful? Hell^yeah. If you're in the North, or Atlantic Canada, or Saskatchewan at 13-14 cases a day. We need the kinds of closures Dr. DeVilla was begging the province to allow yesterday to get back to a level where CT becomes meaningful

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    9. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      What might be even more powerful? Leverage the place-based nature of COVID risk, and rather than rely on apps, use QR readers on venues so that when you have a case, you can identify the venue where the superspreader event they were infected at happened.

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    10. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 3 Oct 2020

      E.g., did they tap-on/tap-off when they got invited to a Rose Garden reception for Amy Coney Barrett, that kind of thing. Efficient. This is the sort of stuff @zeynep was writing about in her magnificent piece in the Atlantic. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Oct 2020
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      Thank you!

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