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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      As explained in my overdispersion piece, if there are two transmission events (both the President and the First Lady) there are likely more. Also see my earlier piece about airborne transmission: indoors, six feet isn't enough and the *talker* can infect. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/AaodjKT7RO

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted The New York Times

      This pathogen can be surprisingly non-contagious most of the time... But when it strikes, it's often in clusters. So they may well have a cluster on their hands.https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1312024557356806145 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      The New York TimesVerified account @nytimes
      Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, has tested positive for the coronavirus and is experiencing mild symptoms, according to multiple people briefed on the situation. https://nyti.ms/2Sm8jrr 
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jon Levy

      The cost of not following the science. The CDC still has not (re)posted updated airborne transmission guidelines, and WHO still has not updated their documents for the public. DISTANCE IS NOT PROTECTIVE ENOUGH INDOORS. Ventilate, filter, mask up.https://twitter.com/jonlevyBU/status/1311976244553101313 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jon Levy @jonlevyBU
      I pray that the debate “health and safety protocols” included ventilation and filtration, even though they were not listed by the Cleveland Clinic. I don’t know who was positive when, but unmasked yelling in a poorly ventilated space is a high risk situation. pic.twitter.com/SD7iyhTah2
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tracy Austin kept noticing my legs.

      Yes. The authorities should never have let anyone—no matter their position—tour hospitals unmasked in violation of their own rules. The debate commission should have stood its ground. The WHO and the CDC should have listened to the scientists. So it goes.https://twitter.com/spin4srv/status/1312027812551970818 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Tracy Austin kept noticing my legs. @spin4srv
      Replying to @TopherSpiro @zeynep
      The Commission on Debates should not have allowed the debate to start until all parties were obeying the rules and wearing masks. Should have just sat there ON EVERY TV CHANNEL until those people put on a goddamn mask.
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      Yes, the Trump campaign was flouting the guidelines. But the current guidelines we do have from the CDC and the WHO are not enough to protect Biden. Such failure puts at risk people who do follow the rules. Indoors, distance alone IS NOT enough to prevent airborne transmission.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Mike Lee

      It looks increasingly like a cluster. The key question will be if they all got infected from the same source/event. With all this, it would be irresponsible not to quarantine almost everyone in the White House and the Senate. Tests can need days to detect.https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/status/1312055257992753152 …

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      Mike LeeVerified account @SenMikeLee
      pic.twitter.com/V3kSLogoDP
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Henry J. Gomez

      No word on ventilation, no mention that distance isn't protective enough indoors, and no enforcing of masks. This is why the lack of CDC guidelines on airborne transmission matter. WHO docs still say no masks necessary indoors if separated by three feet!https://twitter.com/HenryJGomez/status/1312058477758603265 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Henry J. GomezVerified account @HenryJGomez
      Statement from the Cleveland Clinic on the positive tests of Trump and others at Tuesday’s debate. pic.twitter.com/xwRCqBBrRr
      15 replies 105 retweets 375 likes
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Mike Lee

      Indoors. Unmasked. Talking.https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/status/1311064032300929038 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Mike LeeVerified account @SenMikeLee
      I was remarkably impressed by Judge Barrett. My meeting with her was fantastic. She is a judge, a legal scholar, and a lawyer with outstanding credentials. We had a great conversation and I am very much looking forward to speaking with her more during her confirmation hearing. pic.twitter.com/rfGt717PlW
      6 replies 53 retweets 320 likes
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jack Jenkins

      Cluster looking more and more likely.https://twitter.com/jackmjenkins/status/1312068942157025280 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jack JenkinsVerified account @jackmjenkins
      BREAKING: Notre Dame President Fr. John Jenkins, who was at the WH SCOTUS announcement on Saturday and was criticized for not wearing a mask and shaking hands, has tested positive for COVID-19. This was just sent out to the campus. Unclear if he had it during the WH event. pic.twitter.com/2cR4eaVMzb
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Brian Stelter

      Cluster. K. Overdispersion. Airborne. Backward tracing. (Words and concepts we need the talk more about.)https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1312079653486632961 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Brian StelterVerified account @brianstelter
      News: I have obtained a memo from the @WHCA board to WH reporters with word of "two additional cases of COVID-19 at the White House." A journalist received a preliminary positive result. And a WH staffer who sits in the "lower press" area received a confirmed positive result.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Greg Dworkin

      Yes, finally! For details on why this is important, see my article on aerosol/airborne transmission. https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/614737/ …https://twitter.com/DemFromCT/status/1312131078157524992 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Greg DworkinVerified account @DemFromCT
      notice that Biden is delivering the speech with a mask that's how it should be. The speaker is the one aerosolizing. @zeynep
      1:49 PM - 2 Oct 2020
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Robert Costa

          Cluster. It was bound to happen.https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1312085226370334720 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Robert CostaVerified account @costareports
          Per 2 WH officials and a conservative ally outside the WH who was present, there were at least two private gatherings/receptions last Sat. around ACB announcement, one in the Cabinet room and another in Diplomatic Reception Room. Very little distancing, few masks. Lots of VIPs.
          5 replies 55 retweets 277 likes
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kellyanne Conway

          A superspreading event. They have to trace this back asap.https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/1312214949658152960 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Kellyanne ConwayVerified account @KellyannePolls
          Tonight I tested positive for COVID-19. My symptoms are mild (light cough) and I’m feeling fine. I have begun a quarantine process in consultation with physicians. As always, my heart is with everyone affected by this global pandemic. ❤️
          12 replies 125 retweets 455 likes
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted HowardKurtz

          There was an indoor component to the event. But we definitely need more information. More in the cluster.https://twitter.com/HowardKurtz/status/1312200574067068930 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          HowardKurtzVerified account @HowardKurtz
          Three White House reporters, including my old colleague Mike Shear of the NYT, have tested positive for the virus. They have either traveled with Trump or covered WH events with crowds of mostly unmasked people
          9 replies 24 retweets 217 likes
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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ed O'Keefe

          One more senator. This is how a cluster works, and these people are tested heavily. Imagine this cluster without access to testing, igniting more clusters. That’s the catastrophic process my article has been trying to explain, and the one we should gear up to avoid.https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1312378700818722822 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Ed O'KeefeVerified account @edokeefe
          JUST IN: @SenRonJohnson tests positive for #COVID19, his office says: pic.twitter.com/McjM4G1wHu
          8 replies 122 retweets 413 likes
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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Max Roser

          If UK was late to notice because they ran out of columns in EXCEL, this is an indescribable failure. Excel screw-ups are known & numerous. No researcher should rely on Excel. Plus, with overdispersion, late is catastrophic because clusters ignite clusters.https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1313046638915706880 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Max RoserVerified account @MaxCRoser
          In the UK the number of cases rose rapidly. But the public – and authorities – are only learning this now because these cases were only published now as a backlog. The reason was apparently that the database is managed in Excel and the number of columns had reached the maximum. pic.twitter.com/X4a8keSEHK
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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Josh Michaud

          So the White House is not doing backward contact tracing—as they should—to figure out how the cluster started? They’ll miss cases.https://twitter.com/joshmich/status/1313297693054316546 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Josh MichaudVerified account @joshmich
          Here we can see the difference between retrospective and prospective contact tracing. The WH is saying it is doing prospective tracing, but doesn't need to to retrospective tracing. https://twitter.com/BMorgenstern45/status/1313268015388127232 …
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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Katherine Faulders

          So is this part of the White House cluster? Probably so, right?https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/1313522445731745792 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Katherine FauldersVerified account @KFaulders
          Wow — A U.S. official confirms that all the members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are quarantining at home after a positive COVID test for Admiral Ray, the Vice Commandant of the US Coast Guard, per @LMartinezABC.
          9 replies 30 retweets 148 likes
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        9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jennifer Jacobs

          And more...https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1313507289161236480 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Jennifer JacobsVerified account @JenniferJJacobs
          NEWS: One of the president's military aides, Coast Guard aide Jayna McCarron, has coronavirus, sources tell me. And so does one of the president's valets, who is also active duty military, and traveled with the president last week.
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        10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Oct 2020

          🙄Anyone proposing Sweden as a contrarian example has *no idea* what they're talking about. Sweden had a more strict & early indoor gathering limit than most of Europe, never lifted it when others did & everyone 16+ is in virtual school. Japan! Try Japan! https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ …pic.twitter.com/rguHxKsJXo

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        11. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Oct 2020

          March: Bartender infected as Austrian ski resort. Medical authorities: "A transmission of the virus onto the guests of the bar is, from a medical point of view, rather unlikely." Reality:~6000 infections in 45 countries. (March in Japan: hunting clusters.)https://www.france24.com/en/20201009-documents-suggest-virus-was-downplayed-at-austria-resort …

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        12. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Oct 2020

          Canada allows indoor spin class with lower capacity, six-foot radius around bikes and sanitation. So panting crowd indoors but, hey, on clean bikes! Go ahead, require throwing salt over one's shoulder and hang a🧿. Index patient had no symptoms: 51 cases. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/10/13/patient-zero-displayed-no-symptoms-hamiltons-spinco-superspreader-outbreak-reaches-51-cases.html …pic.twitter.com/FN0PItiKzk

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        13. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ben Dube  🚲 🧦 🚰  🚲

          Ah, even better. You don't have to wear your mask in gyms in Canada when it *actually* counts the most. Brilliant. Look, folks, I'll say it straight out. United States and most of Europe have lost sight of the science of this pandemic. Inexcusable.https://twitter.com/benjamintdube/status/1316027523432542208 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Ben Dube  🚲 🧦 🚰  🚲 @benjamintdube
          Replying to @zeynep
          Note that masks were not required *while panting* "Masks are required in fitness centres — except while working out." https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-region/2020/10/08/eleven-cases-of-covid-19-linked-to-outbreak-at-hamilton-spin-studio.html … pic.twitter.com/16JbKPnRnE
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        14. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Asit K Mishra  😷 🪟

          Yep. I have a CO2/VOC monitor I've been using to see how things are. Places are *drowning* in bleach etc. The people doing the cleaning—low-paid women—are breathing in enormous amounts of harmful stuff unnecessarily, and then we are (I measure it).https://twitter.com/akm5376/status/1316027790160928771 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Asit K Mishra  😷 🪟 @akm5376
          Replying to @zeynep
          And the entire article does not mention ventilation. And they are huffing in VOCs from the cleaning agents. Even without a pandemic that is not healthy.
          1 reply 40 retweets 122 likes
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        15. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bora

          Movie theaters (silent patrons wearing masks) are almost certainly much safer than spin classes indoors with unmasked panting exercisers, even with the "sanitation" and "reduced capacity" and "six feet between bikes" blah blah nonsense.https://twitter.com/BAmontanada/status/1316029238001037315 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Bora @BAmontanada
          Replying to @zeynep
          When spin studios opened I was shocked. Yet they are closing many places with no real evidence of spread (movie theatres). Please note that gov of Canada website has yet to update its covid guidelines, still stating it's mainly spread via surfaces! Facepalm
          9 replies 56 retweets 261 likes
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        16. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Oct 2020

          March, 2020: "Let's wear masks for a respiratory disease". "NOOO, they are harmful." Evidence? *crickets* October, 2020: "Let's drown everything in bleach and disinfectants!" Wait, there's tons of evidence this isn't that safe or necessary. *crickets* https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2753247 …pic.twitter.com/7imhfQSyI7

          9 replies 74 retweets 192 likes
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        17. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2020

          "If they were following guidelines, how did the outbreak happen?" "This remains unclear." Maybe something wrong with guidelines that allow "distanced" people panting indoors on very very very clean bikes? Seems mostly young people but won't always be. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/10/15/how-were-so-many-infected-everything-you-need-to-know-about-hamiltons-spinco-outbreak.html …pic.twitter.com/5qBwVxEm8k

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