Yes! As I explain in my piece, the polarization around Sweden is not useful because Sweden is a middling country—not that lax but also not great. It's not an example of success OR failure of herd immunity or lockdowns. Japan, though, is *very* interesting.https://twitter.com/chip_uni/status/1311727369086922757 …
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As explained in my overdispersion piece, if there are two transmission events (both the President and the First Lady) there are likely more. Also see my earlier piece about airborne transmission: indoors, six feet isn't enough and the *talker* can infect. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/AaodjKT7RO
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted The New York Times
This pathogen can be surprisingly non-contagious most of the time... But when it strikes, it's often in clusters. So they may well have a cluster on their hands.https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1312024557356806145 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jon Levy
The cost of not following the science. The CDC still has not (re)posted updated airborne transmission guidelines, and WHO still has not updated their documents for the public. DISTANCE IS NOT PROTECTIVE ENOUGH INDOORS. Ventilate, filter, mask up.https://twitter.com/jonlevyBU/status/1311976244553101313 …
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Jon Levy @jonlevyBUI pray that the debate “health and safety protocols” included ventilation and filtration, even though they were not listed by the Cleveland Clinic. I don’t know who was positive when, but unmasked yelling in a poorly ventilated space is a high risk situation. pic.twitter.com/SD7iyhTah24 replies 151 retweets 419 likesShow this thread -
zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tracy Austin kept noticing my legs.
Yes. The authorities should never have let anyone—no matter their position—tour hospitals unmasked in violation of their own rules. The debate commission should have stood its ground. The WHO and the CDC should have listened to the scientists. So it goes.https://twitter.com/spin4srv/status/1312027812551970818 …
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Yes, the Trump campaign was flouting the guidelines. But the current guidelines we do have from the CDC and the WHO are not enough to protect Biden. Such failure puts at risk people who do follow the rules. Indoors, distance alone IS NOT enough to prevent airborne transmission.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Mike Lee
It looks increasingly like a cluster. The key question will be if they all got infected from the same source/event. With all this, it would be irresponsible not to quarantine almost everyone in the White House and the Senate. Tests can need days to detect.https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/status/1312055257992753152 …
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Replying to @davekartunen @Susan_Hennessey
That's outdoors. That picture doesn't worry me that much. It's the unmasked time indoors that's most important.
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Yeah, even. Not that I'd recommend doing it this way, but that's not alarming photo.
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