not trust ONLY virologists--lots of others need/deserve to be heard as well
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Replying to @spencerreiss @zeynep
So a strawman point. Epidemiologists, for example, have been prominently included in the scientific teams doing the research and making recommendations from the very beginning. Mystified why you think otherwise.
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Replying to @chipbayers @zeynep
are we reading the same piece? I'm seeing a fairly damning indictment of received Covid wisdom, by a sociologist who claims no special expertise with pandemics. my point was/is that we need to be super careful about deferring to credentials & shutting down debate
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Replying to @spencerreiss @zeynep
Yeah no, you’re reading your desire to debunk experts into it. The actual experts she quotes infer that, to the extent mistakes were made in the West, it was because we’ve had less experience with the over-dispersed/ stochastic spread of contagions like SARS which Asia has had.
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What it certainly debunks is laymen who have insisted is it’s just another flu, or confused the public by labeling it variously the “Wu/China/Commie Flu.”.
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Replying to @chipbayers @zeynep
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@zeynep wanted to take down the "armchair" crowd, presumably she would have--easy enough to do. but this is a better target--the CW. is she right? no clue--you can find three scientists to say anything. but as I said to start, I'm just happy to see a smart outsider weighing in1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @spencerreiss @zeynep
Can you explain which conventional wisdoms you believe she “targeted” and “took down”?
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Replying to @chipbayers @zeynep
huh? I didn't say either--this is getting silly
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Replying to @spencerreiss @zeynep
You had previously written that this article was an “indictment of received COVID wisdom.” I’m just trying to understand what aspects of said wisdom you believe were indicted. Mask wearing? Social distancing? Limiting of large indoor gatherings?
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Replying to @chipbayers @spencerreiss
I’ll just say that I write something like this and I get an enormous number of emails and notifications telling me they have no idea. Same with the ventilation piece. If this is all well-known and already communicated, why are so many people so surprised?
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When I wrote about the need for masks back in March, I had months of experts arguing with me how wrong I was. There are experts, and there are experts. Neither the WHO or the CDC have the correct guidelines for ventilation and indoors to this day. It’s October 2020.
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So I wish I was just reiterating conventional wisdom. I wouldn’t have to bother and do all this work. Have a nice day.
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Replying to @zeynep @spencerreiss
I do think your March piece on masks played a significant part in shifting the conventional wisdom on that subject. I hope this latest does the same on testing & tracing approaches.
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