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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Longreads

      The inequalities we're entrenching (on top of the existing ones) on children will have consequences for decades to come. This is especially terrible since, given what we *do* know about COVID and children, we could have tried to open up at least K-5 in many places.https://twitter.com/Longreads/status/1311724566759211013 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      LongreadsVerified account @Longreads
      "But the new disparity is stark: in many cities, children in private schools are going to school, and children in public schools are not." @AlecMacGillis https://www.propublica.org/article/the-students-left-behind-by-remote-learning … pic.twitter.com/rAlHr98Abk
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Oct 2020

      There has been a lot of misreporting on different aspects of the pandemic, but I don't think any single topic has been misreported, misunderstood and sensationalized to the point of misinformation more than the topic of children, schools and this pandemic.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Oct 2020

      There was no option without downsides, no solution without trade-offs but we did not have that discussion. It got lost in the polarization, sensationalism, misreporting and the fear. I honestly don't know if the already suffering public education this country will ever recover...

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted 🜏 David Lightbringer 🜏

      It doesn't show that. That's just the latest misreporting.https://twitter.com/thedragonLML/status/1311734991341023232 …

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      🜏 David Lightbringer 🜏 @thedragonLML
      Replying to @rpd158 @zeynep
      And the spreading risk isn’t low. The latest and largest Covid study just done in India shows that children spread Covid just as much as adults.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Alasdair Munro

      Here's another thread on the latest round of misreporting about children from the essential @apsmunro who specializes on this topic. The reporting on kids, transmission, viral loads etc. has been *atrocious* in a year of fairly low bars on bad reporting.https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1311616478844780544 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Alasdair MunroVerified account @apsmunro
      "If there's one thing we learn from history, it's that we don't learn from history" A new study from India looks at #COVID19 contact tracing And now reported, "[children] transmitted the virus at rates similar to the rest of the population" 🤔 https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-09-30/largest-covid-19-transmission-study-highlights-super-spreaders … 1/10
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        2. Richard Stands‏ @RickRhyman 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apsmunro

          The CDC reports that there were only 66 COVID deaths in the US since the beginning for kids under the age of 15. And there were less than 16K deaths in the US below age 55. Kids should go back to school.

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        3. 🜏 David Lightbringer 🜏‏ @thedragonLML 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @RickRhyman @zeynep @apsmunro

          You are wrong. Kids are catching and spreading covid and schools that reopened aren't doing wellhttps://abc7ny.com/covid-19-griebling-elementary-school-howell-township-frankford/6673553/ …

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        2. 🜏 David Lightbringer 🜏‏ @thedragonLML 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apsmunro

          Wrong wrong wrong. This thread merely says that we can't be as sure as some say; it DOES NOT say the India study is wrong. Opening up schools is idiotic, I'm not sure what your crusade is, but you are spreading false information.

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        3. 🜏 David Lightbringer 🜏‏ @thedragonLML 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @thedragonLML @zeynep @apsmunro

          https://abc7ny.com/covid-19-griebling-elementary-school-howell-township-frankford/6673553/ …

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        1. Floating head of death‏ @floating_of 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apsmunro

          In what world do children only interact with other children who haven't interacted with anyone else

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        1. SkipLock‏ @SkippyLockwood 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apsmunro

          will the children teach themselves? if so ~ seems reasonable!

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        1. The Count of Monte Sisqó‏ @_Billdozer_ 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @j_g_allen @apsmunro

          these stories are having massive impact on policy decisions too, this is a real shame. Have you tried contacting those authors? They need to see this

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        1. Nicholas Bauer, PhD  👨‍🔬 🔬‏ @BioTurboNick 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apsmunro

          "Now it may be the case that infected children are just as infectious; it has been difficult to determine" It seems we don't have good information on which to make a call.

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        2. Mr. T‏ @TheRealTotes 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apsmunro

          In the thread he says "Now it may be the case that infected children are just as infectious; it has been difficult to determine" So... what is a policy maker to do with this info?

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        3. Alasdair Munro‏Verified account @apsmunro 1 Oct 2020
          Replying to @TheRealTotes @zeynep

          Weigh the known, massive harms of prolonged school closure agains there uncertain benefits of continuing closure If a policy maker decides schools should be closed whilst *anything else* is open at all, they’ve made a mistake

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