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    1. Jennifer Nuzzo, DrPH‏Verified account @JenniferNuzzo 20 Sep 2020

      Jennifer Nuzzo, DrPH Retweeted Dr. Saskia Popescu

      Exactly. I don’t see what’s new about this guidance. It sure doesn’t seem like the huge shift people are calling it. Seems like we’re splitting hairs unless control measures are changed.https://twitter.com/SaskiaPopescu/status/1307802198546423809 …

      Jennifer Nuzzo, DrPH added,

      Dr. Saskia PopescuVerified account @SaskiaPopescu
      The @CDCgov guidance says “droplets or small particles, such as those in aerosols”. Reiterating that this is droplets and aerosols - the guidance remains the same about masks + distancing + limiting indoor activity + hand hygiene + cleaning/disinfection. https://twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1307787446948511744 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Sep 2020
      Replying to @JenniferNuzzo @angie_rasmussen

      I think it's a huge deal because I've been fielding calls/questions from people for months because of lack of official acknowledgement meant that people weren't even being told to open windows when they could. Even being forbidden to! It has practical implications. @SaskiaPopescu

      3 replies 1 retweet 60 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @JenniferNuzzo and

      I think many scientists & the people who have this discussion on Twitter already had a lot of consensus, so to them, it may seem like a minor deal. Out there.. It's still people bleaching surfaces while not opening windows. Treating six feet as magic even in unventilated indoors.

      2 replies 6 retweets 67 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @JenniferNuzzo and

      To this day, official WHO guidelines say no need for masks indoors if separated by one meter... Mere three feet. They don't have one single word on ventilation on their public facing page for what individuals should do. Not one word. (Instead, it's paragraphs on handwashing).

      2 replies 6 retweets 51 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @JenniferNuzzo and

      That's why I think it's not a big deal to the experts but a big deal for how community measures. Some schools are still closing a whole day, pushing kids into haphazard childcare, increasing network links and infection risk because.. they deep clean then. But no open windows. /n

      5:19 AM - 21 Sep 2020
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        2. Jessica Bassett‏ @jessica_bassett 21 Sep 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @JenniferNuzzo and

          100% all of this. Many school districts are still interpreting guidance to mean distancing students allows for masks to safely come off for extended periods. This is in NY, where reopening has otherwise been very measured.https://spectrumlocalnews.com/share/nys/central-ny/ny-state-of-politics/2020/08/31/schools-have-mask-wearing-flexibility--worrying-parents-?cid=app_share …

          4 replies 8 retweets 36 likes
        3. Jessica Bassett‏ @jessica_bassett 21 Sep 2020
          Replying to @jessica_bassett @zeynep and

          My child's superintendent is great, but follows official guidance to the letter, especially given pressure from both pro- & anti-mask voices. CDC updates should force state/local DOH updates, with a real impact on situations that individuals cannot control, eg. schools, offices.pic.twitter.com/tpy8PL3C4T

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        2. Laurence Berland‏ @laurenceb 21 Sep 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @JenniferNuzzo and

          It's a huge deal if you are dealing with a wide range of businesses who can finally no longer respond to ventilation concerns with "we follow all CDC guidelines". No more saying they follow recommended best practices when a tenant who wants open windows goes to housing court.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Laurence Berland‏ @laurenceb 21 Sep 2020
          Replying to @laurenceb @zeynep and

          Think of how many places people get cover for their behavior by saying they follow the latest CDC recommendations. It's everywhere. These guidelines frequently become the minimum you can get away with complying with.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. John Panzer‏ @jpanzer 21 Sep 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @JenniferNuzzo and

          John Panzer Retweeted John Panzer

          And now:https://twitter.com/jpanzer/status/1308087668798967809?s=20 …

          John Panzer added,

          John Panzer @jpanzer
          In the face of official deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. The CDC published, then pulled, guidance that the coronavirus commonly spreads via aerosols. (Which is absolutely supported by the science.) Left: Friday's update Right: Today's coverup pic.twitter.com/O4PTQPeX5G
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