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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2020
      Replying to @antoniogm

      Academics don't think Internet will ruin everything. That usually comes from people making the viral thing du jour. Academics tend to know actual history. As for the first versus popularizer—you're judging different games by the same standard. Different incentives.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2020
      Replying to @antoniogm @benthompson

      What do you think is the game for (most) academics? It's not a job populated mostly by people trying to maximize their earnings or their public visibility. Anyone who can succeed in the tough academic job market could almost certainly make much more money some other way.

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    8. jonstokes(\.com|\.eth)‏ @jonst0kes 15 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @antoniogm @benthompson

      I pretty strongly disagree w/ this. Academics at the PhD level feeding into the job market optimize for status within the hierarchy of their guild & the larger academy (but mostly guild). Some of these skills may translate to BigCos but in general I think they'd be eaten alive.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2020
      Replying to @jonst0kes @antoniogm @benthompson

      But the point is: people who choose academia are often looking for something really different, and operate within a very different incentive structure. It has its own dysfunctions for sure and a terrible job market. But it's not some last choice of the desperate.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jonst0kes and

      If anything, if the job market wasn't this terrible, you'd see so many more people flock to it. It's very competitive in its own way exactly because that. Not too many is really "stuck" there; people with good jobs fought tooth-and-nail to get them exactly because it's different.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2020
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      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Henry Farrell

      What he’s saying.https://twitter.com/henryfarrell/status/1305895775877107717 …

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      Henry FarrellVerified account @henryfarrell
      Replying to @henryfarrell @antoniogm
      You can't patent general social science or cultural insights. See also: recipes etc. But good ones actually take a lot of time and energy to come up with. So people coordinate towards a credit-for-good-insights set of norms and police and defend them vigorously.
      10:52 AM - 15 Sep 2020
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