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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020

      Woodward has Trump on tape in February, lucidly recounting basic facts, including severity & airborne transmission, that he was told by Xi. People who say it wouldn't have mattered: you don't know that. Savvy cynicism isn't politics; it's self-justification for paralysis.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020

      I find this argument baffling. This isn't politics. This is giving up. "Nothing would work, they would spin, no point in releasing information, he'd claim a hoax" etc. etc. Yes, nothing will work if people think and act like nothing will work. https://twitter.com/Alagai/status/1303751365076942848 …pic.twitter.com/y6rvtgCIdI

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020

      People have forgotten the media environment in February. I was begging journalists to take this seriously, being lectured that we should worry about the flu instead—and top newspapers were publishing articles saying we should continue traveling and masks were just superstition.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020

      People are telling me that everyone knew all this in February. I wish! After much frustration, I wrote an article at the end of February on the need to get ready for the coming pandemic. As far as I can tell, it's the first mainstream mention of the need for "flatting the curve."

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020

      So, no, it's just not true that "everyone knew" in February. It was a month of complacency and/or false messaging. Do people forget what happened this quickly? Yes, I'm frustrated that Woodward had Trump on tape, lucidly stating correct and crucial information, and sat on it.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020

      Again: this isn't absolving the administration. But it's possible to *also* say that this was crucial information about a once-in-a-century pandemic, and informing the public quickly is a noble way to end a career that started spectacularly—much better than the 14th bestseller.

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    7. James Gleick‏Verified account @JamesGleick 9 Sep 2020
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      But today, Zeynep? As a first reaction? Isn’t there something a little esoteric about focusing on Woodward’s delay in releasing the news, which we only have because he did finally release it? I don’t defend him. I just say, the main story is that Trump KNEW.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020
      Replying to @JamesGleick

      If I were running the front page of a newspaper, yes, that's what I'd focus on. But I think the people who follow me have heard much about the administration's failures. There is a weird passivity in the air I can't explain: that we are helpless because the administration failed

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    9. James Gleick‏Verified account @JamesGleick 9 Sep 2020
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      I feel that, too—weird passivity. For me it’s: “Sure, Trump is awful, we know THAT. Nothing new THERE.” Many are telling me they can be mad at Trump and Woodward both. I just feel that’s disproportionate and counterproductive somehow.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020
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      Yep, every time someone releases something about Trump: "It won't change a thing." Journalists openly downplay things, saying "swing voters don't care". The national passivity and the resignation, combined with a managerial attitude towards the public, is frustrating to me.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Sep 2020
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      There is something particular in the air that I can't fully describe yet, but it's quite striking. Woodward aside.

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        1. Mel Conway‏ @conways_law 9 Sep 2020
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          "Mass disinformation is mass psychological abuse." Confusion is a key element of trance induction. See especially https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson#Confusion_Technique … http://melconway.com/Home/pdf/vaccine.pdf …

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        1. Jacob‏ @surlierthanthou 9 Sep 2020
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          Lots of giving up and “both sides are liars so 🤷‍♂️” we are constantly checking the other side for hypocrisies and inconsistencies, while also having absolutism as a core value, as if we forgot matters of degree actual matter.

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        1. James Gleick‏Verified account @JamesGleick 9 Sep 2020
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          P.S. For me, this is the real case against Woodward: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/books/review-rage-donald-trump-bob-woodward.html …

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