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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Aug 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      Also important: there are a lot of examples of media going out of their way to falsely represent beaches as crowded through use of lenses and angles. All that despite being outdoors much safer and completely inappropriate to represent high-risk for COVID. https://twitter.com/sarahtakesfotos/status/1299870154105389056 …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

      If you read the article itself in the New York Times, you see this beach photo but you'd learn that *indoor* nightclubs in Spain were allowed to remain open till 5a before the 2nd wave. Also street cleaning is theater. (They do have *one* ER photo for a change!) ht @artur0castropic.twitter.com/w3nJFv2Bb4

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Sep 2020

      Eek, et tu @ScienceMagazine? Article: "In the spring, some countries banned almost any outdoor activity, including jogging; now, the focus is on *indoor* activities. 'We’ve learned outdoor hospitality is generally fine.'" Photo? A beach, of course! How dare people have safe fun!pic.twitter.com/F0NB1AiTbg

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Sep 2020

      But that beach that @Bloomberg chose to represent as COVID risk? It's misinformation. That beach is vast, not even mildly crowded and it's probably as safe an outing as one can imagine. What will it take to for media to communicate INDOORS is the high risk place? h/t @leonhjavipic.twitter.com/uMhcZiEHU0

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2020

      “Look at these people having a safe outlet during such difficult times. Let’s just make sure we scold them for that, and not use the power of visuals to inform people of the actual big risks of crowded, unventilated indoors.” ht @mauprietopic.twitter.com/BF4K0baF63

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kevin Burke

      Visuals overwhelm words. Also if they know the facts, why aren’t they communicating them?🤬https://twitter.com/derivativeburke/status/1302972465648295936 …

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      Kevin Burke @derivativeburke
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      lead video on @GMA segment on coronavirus risks was a photo of beaches (To be fair they later said main risk was from bars and parties)
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2020

      Risk is so grave that media must make sure not to use the power of visuals to correctly identify risk—indoors. https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1302962825778933763 …pic.twitter.com/3na5Fo3oFb

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Sep 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted AFP News Agency

      Is there data from Brazil on the actual victims and where they are contracting COVID? If it is like all the other places on the planet, it's not the beach—it's "essential", especially low-wage workers, nursing/elderly homes, and indoor spaces. ht @KetanJ0https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1303302070724952064 …

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      VIDEO: Thousands of people gather on the beaches of Rio de Janeiro during the holiday weekend ahead of Brazil's Independence Day, as the country eases quarantine measures despite surpassing 4 million coronavirus cases with more than 125,000 deaths pic.twitter.com/umD3GICXJH
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    9. Bruno Natal (RESUMIDO)‏Verified account @URBe 8 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @KetanJ0

      Are you assuming low-wage workers don't go to a crowded beach, where they can get infected or infect other people? Beaches in Rio congregate people from all parts of town, with most getting there via packed public transportation.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Sep 2020
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      They should then have pictures of the packed public transportation, because after about eight months of epidemiological data it's pretty clear that it's really really really hard to transmit on a beach, even a packed one. Misleading people about the actual risk is very harmful!

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @URBe @KetanJ0

      Even the most packed beaches are, in fact, quite spaced out. WHO guidelines are one meter & fifteen minutes--very hard to manage that on a beach unless you're yelling at some stranger for fifteen minutes in quite close distance. Sunlight deactivates the virus, the air dilutes it.

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        1. Allen Berman‏ @berman_allen 8 Sep 2020
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          Indeed!!!! If you don't mind keeping a "robust" separation [10/12 ft is great--even no need for Masks!!], you can be on the beach for 12 hours, and Eddy Currents, Brownian Motion, and 3 dimensional air dilution, are gonna insure you won't/can't get infected.

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        2. Bruno Natal (RESUMIDO)‏Verified account @URBe 8 Sep 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @KetanJ0

          There's much less than one meter in between people in packed beaches here. And Brazilians do talk very loudly and up close. As for the WHO, unfortunately their communication has been messy. As I understand it, the guidelines are for populations with R0 under 1. Not the case here.

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        3. Bruno Natal (RESUMIDO)‏Verified account @URBe 8 Sep 2020
          Replying to @URBe @zeynep @KetanJ0

          But I don't understand you point and I would like to. You think beaches should be allowed? No matter the culture around it or RO? Because after two weekends of packed beaches data shows hospitalization is on the rise again. Honest question.

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