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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Sep 2020

      I *totally* disagree with this framing of tech criticism or analyses of harms as pessimism. Critics are the realists, & we lean optimist because criticism is an effort to improve. "Let's focus on the positive" isn't optimism: it's resignation to harms—and thus quite pessimistic. https://twitter.com/nytimestech/status/1301182723797725185 …pic.twitter.com/vBwi0WRqk6

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    2. Sriram Krishnan - sriramk.eth‏Verified account @sriramk 2 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      I see where you’re coming from and like with all things this is about calibration and moderation. We need optimism to inspire and motivate and rally people around. Star Trek inspired legions of kids to get into building things and so did Iron Man.

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    3. Sriram Krishnan - sriramk.eth‏Verified account @sriramk 2 Sep 2020
      Replying to @sriramk @zeynep

      This isn’t an either-or. We need both. But I strongly feel we are in a world which only has one narrative right now in all forms of culture and we could use others.

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    4. Sriram Krishnan - sriramk.eth‏Verified account @sriramk 2 Sep 2020
      Replying to @sriramk @zeynep

      But if forced into a binary, absolutist critic vs optimistic take ( which feels artificial but so be it), I’d rather be on the side of the optimists.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Sep 2020
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      But why is optimism and a realistic and critical analyses of the harms, dangers and downside seen as opposite sides? I'd say just the opposite. Optimism without realism is pessimistic—assumes the downsides are unfixable and unimprovable: just gotta have the terrible stuff happen.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @sriramk

      I'd claim optimism on the side of those who are alert to the issues, and thus are critical.

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        2. Sriram Krishnan - sriramk.eth‏Verified account @sriramk 2 Sep 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          These are abstract and hard to debate over. I like to use pop culture symbols as poles or reference points. If "alert to issues" is The Circle, Black Mirror, etc and 'naive optimism' is Star Trek, Iron Man or maybe The Martian, I'm very much in team Star Trek.

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        3. Brandon‏Verified account @bborrman 2 Sep 2020
          Replying to @sriramk @zeynep

          But Star Trek isn't pure optimism, and its willingness to explore the complications of its utopia is what makes it better over decades. Similarly, Iain Bank's Culture series does a fabulous job of presenting a realistically imaginable techno utopia while exploring the dark side.

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        1. Jason Kint‏Verified account @jason_kint 2 Sep 2020
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          100% agree with Zeynep ⬆️as someone who is commonly framed as a pessimist by a large tech company despite decades of optimism/entrepreneurism in tech. And for Facebook and Google, I drowned our concerns in optimism and moonshots nearly 4 yrs ago. I haven't seen the fruits - yet.

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