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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Sep 2020

    I *totally* disagree with this framing of tech criticism or analyses of harms as pessimism. Critics are the realists, & we lean optimist because criticism is an effort to improve. "Let's focus on the positive" isn't optimism: it's resignation to harms—and thus quite pessimistic. https://twitter.com/nytimestech/status/1301182723797725185 …pic.twitter.com/vBwi0WRqk6

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      1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Sep 2020

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Julian Togelius

        Thank you. There is something to this, as well. I'm going to write longer about this very soon.https://twitter.com/togelius/status/1301193115370426370 …

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        Julian Togelius @togelius
        Replying to @zeynep
        That's true for great tech criticism such as yours. There is also a strong undercurrent of people blaming tech for everything that is wrong.
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      1. Thomas Bohn‏ @tehabe 2 Sep 2020
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        the piece about iron man reminds of this video essay by @FoldableHumanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLUvR8zKbh0 …

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      2. Julian Togelius‏ @togelius 2 Sep 2020
        Replying to @zeynep

        That's true for great tech criticism such as yours. There is also a strong undercurrent of people blaming tech for everything that is wrong.

        2 replies 2 retweets 15 likes
      3. Dominic Watson‏ @dom_watson 2 Sep 2020
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        There is always a strong current of extreme bs around any topic. Pointing out that its there is almost always a waste of energy and worse, detracts from the real issues (or worse still, a deliberate attempt to mute any criticism).

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      1. JP‏ @vectorpoem 2 Sep 2020
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        lack of willingness to regulate big tech is an existential threat to humanity and our planet, typical ignorance of the nature of power in that piece

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      1. neil turkewitz‏ @neilturkewitz 2 Sep 2020
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        It also suffers from employing false binaries. Everyone lives somewhere in the middle. Without meaning to, this framing conflates tech pessimism with opposition to tech when, as you say, such “pessimism” is more accurately described as an attempt to realistically examine risks.

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      1. Evren Kiefer *keep your nose in your mask*‏ @evrenk 2 Sep 2020
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        Yay! Also, "Iron Man" isn't all positive or a model. It uses bountiful clean energy as a pre-requisite plot device for starters :)

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      1. Nat Gaertner‏ @NatGaertner 2 Sep 2020
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        Latour said technology is society made durable, and I think criticisms of "technology" are criticisms of the particular society particular technologies represent. It's disingenuous, as always, to present technology as existing a priori

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      2. Sriram Krishnan - sriramk.eth‏Verified account @sriramk 2 Sep 2020
        Replying to @zeynep

        I see where you’re coming from and like with all things this is about calibration and moderation. We need optimism to inspire and motivate and rally people around. Star Trek inspired legions of kids to get into building things and so did Iron Man.

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      3. Sriram Krishnan - sriramk.eth‏Verified account @sriramk 2 Sep 2020
        Replying to @sriramk @zeynep

        This isn’t an either-or. We need both. But I strongly feel we are in a world which only has one narrative right now in all forms of culture and we could use others.

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