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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

      I do not understand the logic of the graphs in this (NYT article shared with alarm) article at all. At best, they're uninformative, but at worst, wildly misleading. Percent share can increase a lot if the baseline is low, or if fewer adults get infected and can mean nothing. ???pic.twitter.com/X1UuOaMq0T

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

      And the underlying data shows that "children" includes teens up to 19. Yes, we need better data on children but we do have one reliable statistic: deaths. Mercifully, nationally and cumulatively, COVID has killed fewer minors, including teens, than seasonal flu in a normal year.pic.twitter.com/9QyrBOihvs

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

      I wish we knew more! But we're not completely without data. We know kids are not COVID superspreaders & their mortality is lower than seasonal flu, even including teens. The risk of transmission ticks up with age. Putting teens and young adults with younger kids obscures reality.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

      Anyway, that graph makes no informative sense to me. You don't learn much from it, to be honest, but very likely one would be misled—especially given that headline. Also obscures the potential crisis headed our way because of YOUNG INFECTED ADULTS being sent back home.🙄

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Alasdair Munro

      In general, unlike the very early days, we should now be looking reviews and preponderance of evidence, not covering single studies or highlighting useless statistics. I wish more media covered researchers who do that kind of review work. Here's one.https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1298684720411226114 …

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      Alasdair MunroVerified account @apsmunro
      Lots of people badly misinterpret some of the literature of #covid19 in children It’s hard to keep up and analyse it in detail, so it’s understandable Luckily, our team of dedicated reviewers have done the hard work so you don’t have to @DFTBubbles https://dontforgetthebubbles.com/evidence-summary-paediatric-covid-19-literature/ …
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Meira Levinson

          Another review article. We have key gaps in knowledge; we also have accumulating evidence. This is all difficult enough without causing whiplash in the public by overly highlighting single studies (no longer what we should do) or with uninformative graphs.https://twitter.com/meiralevinson/status/1288584967317065729 …

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          Meira Levinson @meiralevinson
          My paper with @mlipsitch and @mugecevik about why reopening primary schools in a safe and pedagogically responsible way should be a national priority--and what to do to make it a reality #EdEthics #EducationWithCOVID @hgse @dsallentess https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2024920 …
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Sep 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Alasdair Munro

          From a researcher on children & COVID. We just can't do "0-19" or even "10-19" reporting. Such misinformation has costs: we're opening up colleges (yikes) and then sending infected young adults home (more yikes) while keeping K-6 completely shut down.https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1300807417798823938 …

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          Alasdair MunroVerified account @apsmunro
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          Anyone who talks about COVID-19 in "children" and doesn't differentiate a 5 year old from a 15 year old isn't worth listening to for that exact reason
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        1. WernerTrapmann @EU27k #PECS @NowTheCitizens‏ @WernerT_Man 1 Sep 2020
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          WernerTrapmann @EU27k #PECS @NowTheCitizens Retweeted

          Another one from Germany is @christoph_rothe corresponding with Alasdair + @BallouxFrancois. By the way there are other great scientists and pediatricians like @HuebnerJohannes @Kellerpass @hendrikstreeck @mugecevik @sidraishaque We need a closer alliance! https://twitter.com/christoph_rothe/status/1298721381157199874?s=19 …

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        1. Jeffrey‏ @jefffreyspies 1 Sep 2020
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          Has the research reached that level of maturity? What should a person look for to make that determination? I'm assuming it's more than just the bare fact reviews are starting to be published?

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        2. Dave  🌵 🚴‍♀️ 🎸‏ @HikerDave57 1 Sep 2020
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          From the linked reading, it looks as if children do transmit to their families, but most of the time a child isn’t the first case in a household. I’m still concerned about in-person school reopening because this recreates an important in-person social network.

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        3. Dave  🌵 🚴‍♀️ 🎸‏ @HikerDave57 1 Sep 2020
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          Knowing that we have a vaccine on the way, the reopening of schools now seems irresponsible; not because of the risk to children who are at low risk, but to society as a whole and especially senior citizens who despite our attempts at isolation still catch the virus.

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