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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020

      "More research is needed." Yep, as usual. Just like with masks in March, there's a preponderance of evidence to act on ventilation. The answer to shortages was to treat the public as a partner & adults who deserve information; the answer to "don't scare the public" is.. the same.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Brian Resnick

      FWIW, the reason I got into ventilation/short-range aerosol research was what I heard from *epidemiologists* first who decisively argued that that epi data was the strongest reason to suspect this mode of transmission. This isn't a US-only conversation!https://twitter.com/B_resnick/status/1293934375009165312 …

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      Brian ResnickVerified account @B_resnick
      Epis ask: "what are the patterns of contagion we're actually observing, and which known model do they fit?" Engineers ask: "what are the physics/mechanics of disease spread, and can we observe it, experimentally?"
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020

      That engineers are arguing for aerosol transmission while Epi/ID folks are against works only if one cherry-picks examples plus ignores countries with top-notch experts and solid track record outside the US/EU. Even here, despite disagreements, the consensus/overlap isn't small.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020

      This week, the WHO is holding a "wear-a-mask" challenge and our outlets are writing a "how did the WHO/US/CDC/UK/EU/media got it so wrong" articles. How about we do better this time and practice evidence-based causal inference and communication that treats the public like adults?

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020

      Honestly, the idea that there's some sort of engineers vs. epidemiologists/infectious-disease specialists divide on airborne/aerosol transmission is just not true the moment you step out into the world. Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan.. US is just behind, again, that's all.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Trisha Greenhalgh

      This is why this "debate" matters. This isn't safe even if people are distanced (WHO says 3 feet and CDC says 6 feet is enough!!) exactly because short-range aerosols and their accumulation indoors, not just droplets that immediately fall, is a concern.https://twitter.com/trishgreenhalgh/status/1293826751844450304?s=20 …

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      Trisha GreenhalghVerified account @trishgreenhalgh
      California’s problem: evangelical mega-churches with (they assume) God on their side. >6000 people, maskless, at an indoor service. https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/12/us/pastor-macarthur-church-california/index.html …
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020

      Why getting airborne right matters. UNC has clusters. (Surprise? No). They're contact tracing for within six feet without masks. NOT ENOUGH FOR INDOORS. Distance isn't that protective indoors *and* source-control masks aren't magic. We need updated evidence-based guidelines ASAP.pic.twitter.com/ob2zTSVALa

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Aug 2020

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      The cost of not explaining the mode of transmission and risks correctly. This is simply not protective enough indoors, and CDC and the WHO need to urgently update their guidelines. (Look at that window that's being ignored!) https://twitter.com/ProfChrisMJones/status/1293909582692007936 …

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Aug 2020

      (Also, the answer to the terminology issues is to use the terms people will use—yes, airborne—with ample description and visuals. Linguistics teaches us that we cannot prescriptively do away with people's words, and if we try, what we will get is misunderstanding misinformation.)

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    10. Harry Wood  🕷 #COVIDisAirborne‏ @HarryIWood 16 Aug 2020
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      Problem is different terms/meanings used by medics and aerosol scientists. Aerosol scientists need more terms because they study air flow, particles, droplets in more detail. Medics stuck in 1930's view of droplet transmission. Need to explain details.https://www.initial.com/blog/how-can-you-catch-diseases-through-the-air/ …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Aug 2020
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      Thanks, I obviously had no idea even though I managed to write thousands of words on the very topic in the article on top of the thread you're responding to. I don't know what I'd do without Twitter.

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