I am not *at all* claiming kids are/aren't transmitting; but coverage in this area has been too-rushed, too-dependent on single studies that do not get same attention when corrected. Also, a lot of conflation between symptomatic kids (rarer) versus all kids (the big question).
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Sometimes, just like the fake Lancet surgisphere "global" study, the numbers don't quite add up even internally, and there's something weird going on. What? We don't immediately know. Maybe minor. Maybe not. Often, this is pointed out in real time, but ignored. Have to slow down.
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Unfortunately, that SK story got so widespread coverage that I'm aware of parents ready to keep their 10-year old under literal house arrest for the next year, simply because of that. This is extremely damaging to children, especially since the 10-19 age group wasn't informative.
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Parents are rightfully spooked. It's scary! High-profile reporting of single studies, especially when so many questions about it are raised immediately, doesn't help. We need preponderance of evidence and that means slowing down and reporting on the *accumulation* of studies.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted
I understand this but the study, as is, wasn't informative for the 10-19 age group, especially not as a whole, and especially for the younger end of the spectrum—but maybe none at all. Unclear. Decisions should not be driven by single studies like this. https://twitter.com/BaYouCanCallMe/status/1293154647436333057 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Gag Halfrunt ✍️ 🩸 🦷 🌊
We may sadly be doing both; some places recklessly opening up without plans or protections while we're also needlessly spooking parents into extreme measures. I see both a lot. I'm advocating for: preponderance of studies and resources/plans based on that.https://twitter.com/dmjossel/status/1293155091357237259 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Max Kennerly
To be clear, as the linked thread makes it clear, there is no claim anywhere that kids aren't transmitting *at all*. The opposite of that, however, isn't how that SK study was represented, especially in headlines, that somehow, 10-19 is same as adults.https://twitter.com/MaxKennerly/status/1293156276394917888 …
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Max KennerlyVerified account @MaxKennerlyReplying to @zeynepThis tweet. To say "I am not *at all* claiming kids are/aren't transmitting" suggests there is no evidence to say whether kids transmit at all. Obviously they do transmit, and obviously they get sick and die. The issue is how often relative to adults. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1293153076447268867 …2 replies 3 retweets 26 likesShow this thread -
zeynep tufekci Retweeted Erin Shedd
Not blaming the parents! We needed to aggressively put resources into schools and it wasn't done. It's terrible all around. But understanding the relative risk is important so we can prioritize: younger kids; outdoors when possible; PPE for teachers; etc.https://twitter.com/NOLAcuse/status/1293158961529659392 …
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Erin Shedd @NOLAcuseReplying to @zeynepAnd parents (and school administrators) have to decide within days or weeks what they are going to do. They don’t have time to wait for the preponderance of studies to make a decision. Can’t blame a parent for thinking that “winging it” isn’t a safe bet right now.2 replies 3 retweets 39 likesShow this thread -
Conclusion: studies are coming out quickly, but luckily, there's great pre- and post-publication peer-review going on by many scientists. Almost all issues are flagged within days; some resolved quickly, some needing further study. Slowing reporting to reflect all this will help.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nick Foy
I'm aware of similar: kids as young as 10 that were set to have in-person interaction with resources and protections (including outdoors) are now online-only partly due to media coverage of that single study. (Not a single outlet thing! It was widespread!)https://twitter.com/TheNickFoy/status/1293162857270476802 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Muge Cevik
For a review of what we do & don't know about kids, see this *review* by @mugecevik @mlipsitch
& @EdwardGoldste16. That South Korea study wasn't interpretable for transmission—yet the correction is less likely to have same reach. Reviews > one new study.https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1294690950489530369 …
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