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    1. Susan Dominus‏Verified account @susandominus 15 Aug 2020

      In mid-July, a large study out of South Korea seemed to suggest that children over the age of 10 spread coronavirus even more than adults do; this update to the same study clarifies otherwise:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/health/older-children-and-the-coronavirus-a-new-wrinkle-in-the-debate.html …

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    2. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @susandominus

      The NYT should be commended for rectifying their incorrect claims about children transmitting more #COVID19 than adults. Though, some serious upfront fact checking would have been even better. I also doubt the correction will reach a tenth of the audience the initial paper did.

      13 replies 84 retweets 365 likes
    3. Muge Cevik‏Verified account @mugecevik 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois @susandominus

      I hope some scientists will give up citing this paper to support their preconceived opinions about children. This nyt article sadly created a lot of social media traction but it was clear from the start this study was never designed to answer the infectiousness question.

      4 replies 31 retweets 145 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @mugecevik @BallouxFrancois @susandominus

      This study, and the rushed, sensational reporting around it, more that almost any other, single-handedly caused so many schools who were equipped and ready to shut down and parents to keep kids home, in my observation. Correction will reach almost nobody and damage is done.

      6 replies 21 retweets 115 likes
    5. Nikki Columbus‏ @nikkicolumbus 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

      Didn’t info about the importance of ventilation become widely discussed around the same time? Or maybe slightly later. But the ventilation issue is one of the biggest concerns among NYC public schools, at least from what I’ve read.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @nikkicolumbus @mugecevik and

      Dunno. I heard so many parents raise that study. I literally heard it from a scared kid "I heard 10 year-olds transmit more than adults" I swear. But I wrote this because ventilation wasn't being discussed. NYC has very low community transmission rate atm.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …

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    7. Nikki Columbus‏ @nikkicolumbus 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

      Oh yes I read this, of course! You really brought people’s attention to the issue 🙏 thank you. But concerns about ventilation and not mandating masks on young children is why I’m hesitating on preschool, despite low transmission rates.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @nikkicolumbus @mugecevik and

      Good luck deciding! My concern is that many schools that were ready to offer the option & parents who had felt comfortable (low-transmission; low-risk family; lots of precautions) were denied even the option to consider because school abruptly closed after this media rush.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @nikkicolumbus and

      Otherwise, obviously, not all schools should open; not all kids should go. But in many places, the alternative has been haphazard childcare (more risky). I'm seeing this where I'm living now; parents are scrambling and sending kids to much-less regulated/less safe childcare.

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    10. Wunderpup‏ @wunderpup06 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @nikkicolumbus and

      On the other side, are the schools that were refining their virtual teaching offerings early in the summer only to suddenly flip to pushing traditional school—even in areas where cases are rising—after political pressure was applied.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @wunderpup06 @nikkicolumbus and

      Agree. Instead of evidence-driven, careful decision-making that prioritizes kids who'd otherwise be in haphazard, less-safe childcare, we have a polarized response driven by fear or pressure. There is no answer that fits all schools; all kids; all ages; all communities

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