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    1. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @susandominus

      The NYT should be commended for rectifying their incorrect claims about children transmitting more #COVID19 than adults. Though, some serious upfront fact checking would have been even better. I also doubt the correction will reach a tenth of the audience the initial paper did.

      13 replies 84 retweets 365 likes
    2. Muge Cevik‏Verified account @mugecevik 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois @susandominus

      I hope some scientists will give up citing this paper to support their preconceived opinions about children. This nyt article sadly created a lot of social media traction but it was clear from the start this study was never designed to answer the infectiousness question.

      4 replies 31 retweets 145 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @mugecevik @BallouxFrancois @susandominus

      This study, and the rushed, sensational reporting around it, more that almost any other, single-handedly caused so many schools who were equipped and ready to shut down and parents to keep kids home, in my observation. Correction will reach almost nobody and damage is done.

      6 replies 21 retweets 115 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

      Especially terrible since the issue was obvious the moment it came out, even without the further information that has since come out.

      2 replies 0 retweets 38 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

      Original article; almost 400,000 shares on Facebook alone. Correction? Not even a thousand shares, yet. It wasn't just the NYT, and how many will not even correct? I don't know how many kids are denied safe schooling and parents now overly-anxious because of the rushed reporting.pic.twitter.com/PCjkxM99Vv

      6 replies 30 retweets 118 likes
    6. Ethical Africa‏ @EthicalAfrica 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois and

      @apoorva_nyc See? People on here saying how their friends are too scared to even let their kids out the house. Well done.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Apoorva Mandavilli‏Verified account @apoorva_nyc 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @EthicalAfrica @zeynep and

      But as the article points out, this does not change the overall conclusions. Bulk of evidence still says the same thing the paper arrived at (except that older kids probably transmit as much as adults, not more, which is where my article landed)

      10 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @apoorva_nyc @EthicalAfrica and

      It does, though. The study design makes the numbers uninterpretable re:infection direction. It adds almost nothing to our knowledge, to be honest (@mugecevik has been doing excellent work tracking this so she can chime in). Two, the only thing it claimed different wasn't... true.

      3 replies 0 retweets 25 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @apoorva_nyc and

      But I strongly object to trying to pin all problems on a single reporter! The study itself was badly-worded (even though the details somewhat made it clear there were problems) and had so little details that it was hard to figure it out, and it was *widely* reported.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Ethical Africa‏ @EthicalAfrica 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @apoorva_nyc and

      I'm saying that someone on here here said that Her article had friends too scared to let their kids out the house. They were specific. She had responsibility for only what she write, no?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @EthicalAfrica @apoorva_nyc

      The study itself had a lot of issues and no, one reporter cannot be held responsible like this. If we could, we'd wave a magic wand and slow *everyone* down. She alone does not control how the media works. I don't get the pile on on her; *everyone* reported it, and usually worse.

      10:36 AM - 15 Aug 2020
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        2. Ethical Africa‏ @EthicalAfrica 15 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apoorva_nyc

          Why? She should ask people who know if the the study had issues if she can't figure that out. Not as if there's a global pandemic going on where we should all try our very best to try and calm the hysteria. The virus is the least of our problems.

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        3. Apoorva Mandavilli‏Verified account @apoorva_nyc 15 Aug 2020
          Replying to @EthicalAfrica @zeynep

          A.....nd I did. Exactly that. And that’s why I said the finding about more transmission was a fluke. But they thought it was a good study and that is what I reported.

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