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    1. Susan Dominus‏Verified account @susandominus 15 Aug 2020

      In mid-July, a large study out of South Korea seemed to suggest that children over the age of 10 spread coronavirus even more than adults do; this update to the same study clarifies otherwise:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/health/older-children-and-the-coronavirus-a-new-wrinkle-in-the-debate.html …

      21 replies 216 retweets 390 likes
    2. Prof Francois Balloux‏Verified account @BallouxFrancois 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @susandominus

      The NYT should be commended for rectifying their incorrect claims about children transmitting more #COVID19 than adults. Though, some serious upfront fact checking would have been even better. I also doubt the correction will reach a tenth of the audience the initial paper did.

      13 replies 84 retweets 365 likes
    3. Muge Cevik‏Verified account @mugecevik 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BallouxFrancois @susandominus

      I hope some scientists will give up citing this paper to support their preconceived opinions about children. This nyt article sadly created a lot of social media traction but it was clear from the start this study was never designed to answer the infectiousness question.

      4 replies 31 retweets 145 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @mugecevik @BallouxFrancois @susandominus

      This study, and the rushed, sensational reporting around it, more that almost any other, single-handedly caused so many schools who were equipped and ready to shut down and parents to keep kids home, in my observation. Correction will reach almost nobody and damage is done.

      6 replies 21 retweets 115 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

      Especially terrible since the issue was obvious the moment it came out, even without the further information that has since come out.

      2 replies 0 retweets 38 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

      Original article; almost 400,000 shares on Facebook alone. Correction? Not even a thousand shares, yet. It wasn't just the NYT, and how many will not even correct? I don't know how many kids are denied safe schooling and parents now overly-anxious because of the rushed reporting.pic.twitter.com/PCjkxM99Vv

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        2. Wes Pegden‏ @WesPegden 15 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          It is difficult for me to recall reckless scientific communication on any other single study which seems likely to have done as much damage as this case. Experts were consulted and I think it's fair to say they did not spend the time that giving an opinion should have required.

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        3. Wes Pegden‏ @WesPegden 15 Aug 2020
          Replying to @WesPegden @zeynep and

          Wes Pegden Retweeted Apoorva Mandavilli

          I am reminded of this contemporary account. https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1284594919865225219?s=19 … The ones who realized that valuable input would require time were on to something.

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          Apoorva MandavilliVerified account @apoorva_nyc
          In a story I wrote today, I quoted 4 men and 1 woman. But in fact, I reached out to 4 men and 4 women. All the men were able to talk. All the women were tending to kids. Only 1 was able to squeeze in a 10-min chat to help me out.
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        2. Ethical Africa‏ @EthicalAfrica 15 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @BallouxFrancois and

          @apoorva_nyc See? People on here saying how their friends are too scared to even let their kids out the house. Well done.

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Apoorva Mandavilli‏Verified account @apoorva_nyc 15 Aug 2020
          Replying to @EthicalAfrica @zeynep and

          But as the article points out, this does not change the overall conclusions. Bulk of evidence still says the same thing the paper arrived at (except that older kids probably transmit as much as adults, not more, which is where my article landed)

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        2. Alexander‏Verified account @alexanderrusso 16 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          One possible way to address this situation would be to place a prominent correction/update at the top of the original July story, so that any new readers could see that it had been superseded. Last I looked, this had not been done. @apoorva_nyc

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Aug 2020
          Replying to @alexanderrusso @mugecevik and

          That's a good idea! Though it will still reach a tiny portion of the original readers, if event that, and most other outlets aren't even bothering. It's very hard to put viral genies back in bottles; it's a consequence of the way all media operate.

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        2. Ryan Hisner‏ @LongDesertTrain 16 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          There are far more schools opening who should remain closed than schools remaining closed who should open. The # of cases in my county has nearly tripled in the past month, and positivity is 11%, yet we're fully reopening. I don't think overly-anxious parents are our main concern

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        3. Thirsty Cruz. Big E. Lets Ski.‏ @CruzThirsty 16 Aug 2020
          Replying to @LongDesertTrain @zeynep and

          NY schools are scheduled to open, but being able to look inside, major districts aren't any closer to answering questions or providing solutions to even the basic, testing, ventilating, technology. I don't know how they will open. Seems impossible.

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        1. spurious balance confirmations‏ @chenenko 27 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @bethanymac12 and

          Ah yes Bethany MacLean with more covid in my timeline

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        1. DA‏ @DanielAndrewMe 27 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @bethanymac12 and

          The job of The Media is not to report news. The job of media to create fear/outrage to drive “engagement” (.i.e., clicks) in order to drive ad sells.

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