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    1. Jeremy Konyndyk‏Verified account @JeremyKonyndyk 13 Aug 2020

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      This this this this this. https://twitter.com/dylanhmorris/status/1281445220576645120 …

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    2. Jeremy Konyndyk‏Verified account @JeremyKonyndyk 13 Aug 2020

      To elaborate slightly. The whole "is it airborne" and "droplets vs aerosols" debate is a case of technical jargon impeding public understanding. "Airborne" for the purposes of hospital infection prevention is not the same as "airborne" as a risk communication message.

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    3. Jeremy Konyndyk‏Verified account @JeremyKonyndyk 13 Aug 2020

      When the average layperson hears "airborne", they're not thinking "now I must revert to aerosol IPC protocols." They're thinking "oh, so I get it by breathing it in, not just surface contact." "Droplets" does not convey that idea effectively.

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    4. Jeremy Konyndyk‏Verified account @JeremyKonyndyk 13 Aug 2020

      It's hard to explain why everyone needs to be masking while simultaneously saying "it's not airborne." Less airborne than measles? For sure. Substantially less risk of airborne transmission outdoors than indoors? Absolutely.

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    5. Jeremy Konyndyk‏Verified account @JeremyKonyndyk 13 Aug 2020

      But if we want the public at large to understand that infectious virus can be transmitted through the air over *some* meaningful distance - which is pretty hard to dispute at this point, esp indoors - then "droplets, not airborne" doesn't cut it as a public-facing message.

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    6. Jeremy Konyndyk‏Verified account @JeremyKonyndyk 13 Aug 2020

      Can't explain the WA choral practice, Korean call center, Korean nightclubs, Lansing bar, etc etc without some degree of airborne-esque transmission. So rather than tie ourselves in knots over terminology, we should just say that it is functionally airborne in indoor settings.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020
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      I wrote ~5,000 words on ventilation and airborne transmission, partly out if frustration that this could become masks redux: we stall because we can’t manage the jargon or science communication and explain how mitigations stack up. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1288835752667811845 …

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      Ventilation in July is like masks in March. There's accumulating evidence AND many practical steps to take. Some are within our reach for free or cheap, and we should prioritize the expensive ones. Instead, we're stuck, without guidance. Let's change this. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …
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        2. Jeremy Konyndyk‏Verified account @JeremyKonyndyk 13 Aug 2020
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          Yup. The parallels to the miscommunication on masks (which I too was guilty of) are striking.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Aug 2020
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          It’s less individual guilt, more how do we become nimble and interdisciplinary—in a hurry. The pandemic isn’t waiting for jargon committees to resolve it for us! (Also WHO may have droplet size all wrong—but that’s another weird story. Didn’t matter till now.)

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