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    2. Neera Tanden‏Verified account @neeratanden 11 Aug 2020
      Replying to @mattyglesias @AlecMacGillis

      The only thing we can think of how my husband got the virus was being unmasked at a park and a jogger running close to him. So please stop with this nonscientific stuff. Masks outside are as important around other people as inside. The protesters wore masks.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Aug 2020
      Replying to @neeratanden @mattyglesias @AlecMacGillis

      I'm sorry that your family had infections! That said, the likelihood that a *passing* jogger, even if unmasked, infected your husband would go hard against six months of epidemiological data. The quite rare outdoor cases we know of involve talking, at close distance, at length.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @neeratanden and

      I've been a long-time mask advocate—long before it was accepted, have published extensively on this. While I do advocate people wear masks around people—even outdoors—all the aerosol scientists I interviewed with were fairly comfortable running or walking outdoors without masks.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Aug 2020
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      Indeed, if short-range aerosol transmission outdoors was that infective, even in a passing moment, from a jogger no-less (a healthy person), we'd have billions of infections. Not denying the possibility or your experience, but... there really is a lot of data by now.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @neeratanden and

          I'm saying this because I think communicating a realistic relative risk assessment can help us highlight overlooked issues (people should mask up indoors at all times, even if they can distance) while recognizing outdoors is, indeed, different. More here:https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …

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        2. Young Greg‏ @Bog_dweller 12 Aug 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @neeratanden and

          zeynep, how do you feel about outdoor sports that involve lots of person-on-person defensive coverage and incidental contact (e.g. soccer, basketball, ultimate)?

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Aug 2020
          Replying to @Bog_dweller @neeratanden and

          No go in this environment if there is close-contact or panting in each other's face for any length of time! (Jogger passing by would have aerosols in the slipstream; they'd quickly get diluted and it would barely last a second. Still, joggers should not get too close. Impolite).

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Aug 2020
          Replying to @noelcourage @neeratanden and

          Yes, we know about asymptomatic transmission for sure, and the viral load data is mixed. That said, there is genuinely six months a literature and a lot of science behind the idea outdoors is different, and duration (passing by) and place (outdoors, UV deactivation) does matter.

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        1. Piranga‏ @RRcandid 27 Apr 2021
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          You’re failing to distinguish between a low-likelihood vs zero-likelihood event. Of millions of transient close outdoor interactions between infected people and non-infected people every week, do we have data to suggest that no significant % result in infection? We do not.

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