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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 8 Aug 2020

      Encouraging mask use for kids really is likely to be an important tool for reducing school-based superspreader events and school-driven COVID resurgence. It probably won’t be enough but every little bit helps

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    2. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 8 Aug 2020

      There’s more to say about this weird little sickkids simulation study (obviously not the awesomest optics to base it at BSS, UCC, and Branksome Hall when you’re making guidance for cash-strapped public schools)

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    3. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 8 Aug 2020

      Weirdness in recruitment materials that tells us more about the investigators than the study, and which, if they’re going to be asking subjects about anxiety counts as “contamination”: “Mask wearing for a prolonged period of time may also be anxiety-provoking or frustrating.”

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    4. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 8 Aug 2020

      I’ll leave that to others to comment on. This study is a weird coda to a weird report, and looks like yet more decision-based evidence making. “We found that 50% of students touched their masks in a manner that could result in contamination of hands” sort of stuff

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    5. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 8 Aug 2020

      Again: doesn’t matter. That’s not what the masks are about. Keep up. Some kids have sensory issues or medical exemptions. Sure. It’s not about perfection.

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    6. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 8 Aug 2020

      PS: nieces and nephews in masking jurisdictions. They do it. It’s fine. Easier if grownups set good examples and don’t create issues when there aren’t any.

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    7. David Fisman‏Verified account @DFisman 8 Aug 2020

      Good night

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Aug 2020
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      I've spent too much time dealing with this contamination claim. It's so illogical that it's puzzling. "What if the outside of the mask is contaminated?" Great! The mask is doing even more than source-control because outside contamination means you'd otherwise *inhale* the virus.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Aug 2020
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      What if the inside is contaminated? Self-contamination? Umm, ok the person is already infected and we got source-control? That sounds.. exactly like what should happen. "What if they doff incorrectly?" As opposed to no mask and the virus is therefore all over their face/clothes?

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @DFisman

      I've even had a person come up with a scenario that was: infected mask-wearing person touches inside of mask, gets hand infected, shakes hand with susceptible person. Besides shaking hands while mask, how is even that better than no mask? I cannot get the logic whatsoever.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Aug 2020
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      Anyway, here's a frustrated long thread since March with some of my article. "Incorrect wearing/harm" was the one I never managed to find a plausible argument for! I'd like to understand the best argument for things but .. can't find one for this. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1239903421970501640 …)

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      For the @nytimes, I wrote about why health authorities telling people they didn't need masks, and, besides they wouldn't wear them right, misfired and maybe even fueled hoarding. There will be many painful truths, and we need to learn to talk about them. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html … pic.twitter.com/vBhEbS2rJk
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