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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Aug 2020
      Replying to @sarahjeong

      This is sad, not maddening. I don’t know what to say if we cannot cleanly talk about genocide—that’s what it is by any definition—in a country where you may well have spent the rest of your life in jail for writing this about that country’s government. That’s not excusing the US.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @sarahjeong

      I'm vehemently objecting the framing that it's "becoming genuinely difficult" to answer the question “is the United States better, worse, or the same as China?”. It's very easy to answer without hesitation while making the valid points you make about the US and what we're facing.

      4 replies 8 retweets 89 likes
    5. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @sarahjeong

      one key point here is that *China has gotten significantly worse in the last eight years.* It's not even a static bad power. (Even China c. 2007 was significantly worse than the U.S. circa 2020, to be clear.)

      1 reply 2 retweets 32 likes
    6. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @zeynep @sarahjeong

      But treating China only as an object to make moral framings about the United States is the root badness of almost all writing about China by people with no sense of it as a real, actual place.

      2 replies 9 retweets 42 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer @sarahjeong

      Uighurs are Turkic so I understand the language, more or less, and the testimonies, mostly underground because people are rightfully afraid murder and torture of whomever is left behind if they speak out publicly, are absolutely within the Genocide Convention. And the scale. uff

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @BeijingPalmer @sarahjeong

      And yes, the TikTok situation is almost too stupid to comment on but it's becoming difficult to tell the two apart does not sit right by any moral measure imo, even if one's position is that the US should mind its own business (which is a related but not identical question).

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