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    1. Prof. Jose-Luis Jimenez‏Verified account @jljcolorado 1 Aug 2020

      20/ Thoughts? Comments? Reasons that I missed or didn’t articulate well? Suggestions for way forward? Thanks a lot if you made it to here!

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    2. Kimberly Prather, Ph.D.‏Verified account @kprather88 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @jljcolorado

      I find it confusing to try and separate the two because aerosols are airborne. Based on my experience the public really appreciates a clear simple description so they can understand why they are asked to wear masks, avoid crowded rooms, etc. This virus is traveling in the air.

      10 replies 64 retweets 229 likes
    3. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @kprather88 @jljcolorado

      I’ve actually had good success describing it as short range aeorosols (and what airborne isn’t) - Dr. @angie_rasmussen explained it well on SciFri. I honestly have found people panic more with “airborne” bc the historical context. Appreciate the thread @jljcolorado!

      4 replies 9 retweets 39 likes
    4. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @SaskiaPopescu @kprather88 @jljcolorado

      Same here. "Airborne" is vague and people associate it with long-range measles-esque transmission. I've found it is more useful to educate people about more specific terminology and put it in the context of the virus in question. People get short-range aerosols when explained.

      6 replies 6 retweets 36 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @SaskiaPopescu and

      I struggled with this a lot and here's the problem I see. Language works descriptively, and not prescriptively. I like and use short-range aerosols whenever I can, but the public will use airborne hence I've decided that it's better that we do as well, but defining it correctly.

      2 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

      So if I had magic-wand to fix terminology, I'd use short-range aerosols and nothing else. But there is no way to stuff airborne back into a bag so imho we should work on its incorrect connotations and fill that space with correct information (misinformation thrives on voids).

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    7. Kimberly Prather, Ph.D.‏Verified account @kprather88 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

      But the health impact whether it is short or long range aerosols doesn't matter, does it? The smaller ones (which travel further and build up in a room) will still get to the same place in your lungs, right? Can you explain how the designation of short or long range matters?

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @kprather88 @angie_rasmussen and

      Did you see Outbreak? There's a scene Dustin Hoffman looks at the ceiling vent and says "it's airborne!" to mean that it's gonna spread all over the hospital; that everyone in the same building is at equal risk. We see a Steadicam shot through vents. That's what people may think.

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    9. Kimberly Prather, Ph.D.‏Verified account @kprather88 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

      What is long vs short range? Most think 6 ft. My concern is anyone in a poorly ventilated room with a sick person speaking and breathing aerosols can expose/infect everyone in that room. That is long range because it can happen beyond 6 ft. So I just say tiny aerosols in the air.

      1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @kprather88 @angie_rasmussen and

      Right, so we have to tell people that, under certain conditions, 6 feet is no guarantee and that it's not a magic numbers, that indoors, masks are necessary even with distancing, but that they don't really have to worry about everyone in their apartment complex unless shared air.

      2 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Aug 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @kprather88 and

      The only way out of these dilemmas (and they are that, right now, with no perfect solution), imho is to step up the depth of the communication. Make the science explainable without simplifying it, and trust people to be motivated partners who can get the nuance. That's all I got.

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