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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @can @KirinDave and

      Again, if people want to argue that what he's done is so terrible that he deserves de-anonymization, that's totally different. That's not the NYT claim or position. Other than that, yeah, one's right to a pen name should not depend on quality of prior opsec.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @can @KirinDave and

      If trappings of "public figure" of even that small or any scale are to have no right to have a blog without having to seriously curtail your professional life, which for a therapist is certainly fair, many people will suffer under that criteria. This is not a reasonable standard.

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    6. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @can @zeynep and

      Since it basically should be a given that anyone writing online anonymously for a large audience faces a high likelihood of their identity eventually being revealed, it is a known risk associated with accepting the influence and glory and that risk was accepted, is my two cents.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @JodyShenn @can and

      That is a terrible standard. If you accept the risk, it doesn't make it okay for some big company come and do it. I spent my life around people for whom this would be a life and death issue; and many of them have been sloppy about their names and wrote for large audiences.

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    8. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @can and

      From there, burden would be to argue for an exception, and I think that gets back to the idea that he doesn’t win it in the eyes of many. I guess what I’m just doing is shifting the burden of proof.

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    9. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @JodyShenn @zeynep and

      And I don’t think that’s unfair, given the risk is known, all along you have the ability to take steps to make for your argument better when the time comes, including by acting in ways that make you more sympathetic.

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    10. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @JodyShenn @zeynep and

      (And I think he’s done a lot of that in certain ways, which helped him now via the backlash, but not in others.)

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Jul 2020
      Replying to @JodyShenn @can and

      I don't think only people I sympathize with deserve a pen name. There should be an argument on the merits. I've defended de-anonymizing people before; but on the merits. Without the merits, the default should be respecting pen names which the NYT does most of the time!

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        2. Magister and Technological Lich‏ @KirinDave 9 Jul 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @JodyShenn and

          Well, I'm happy to provide the NYT with the list of my evidence that he's a eugenicist, so they can make the decision on concrete moral grounds. For me at least, I'm only concerned with harm reduction outcomes.

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        3. aster‏ @ArsonAtDennys 9 Jul 2020
          Replying to @KirinDave @zeynep and

          Same here, I and many others have gone to great effort to make sure all the evidence is out there with regards to his blog and the effects of it being out there as is.

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        1. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn 9 Jul 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @can and

          I just think if you’re at a point that a big company is thinking of naming you because of your influence, there’s a good chance your name will be out eventually, so then it’s on the pub to ask, why shouldn’t we do it, what is holding us back? And certainly accept a good argument.

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