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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      Enough with the beach-scolding! It's not scientifically-sound and it's counterproductive. It's a virus—not a moral agent geared to smite people who dare enjoy themselves. Six months in, we *know* most risk is indoors. More knowledge, less baseless outrage. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/it-okay-go-beach/613849/ …pic.twitter.com/rM3uC1pHI6

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      When I talk about beaches being safer, people say, what about bars and restaurants? YES LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT AND NOT THE BEACH. The beach scolding and clickbait has gotten so bad that even news about cities *without* beaches have pics of beaches. We can't be informed like this.pic.twitter.com/TNeRymrUSS

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Reuters

      What happens when public health is driven by outrage and scolding, rather than evidence: We opened indoor restaurants and bars (both are high-risk!) but are closing down beaches that provide a safer outlet for people and support mental and physical health.https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1279429637207138307 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      ReutersVerified account @Reuters
      Florida coronavirus cases rise by record 11,458 on Saturday https://reut.rs/3eZ6SsF  pic.twitter.com/hkOCumDPSW
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      This is terrible. We are many months in, and we know of many *actual* super spreader events. They are not happening outdoors. If the party afterwards is the concern, yes, let’s focus on warning people not to do that—not ban the less risky part of the day. https://twitter.com/antiqueseahorse/status/1279450604646080512 …

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Information Junkie  👨‍💻

      Exactly. The virus may be out-of-sight when we don’t have the indoor pictures—but it’s still spreading, and more effectively. If we’re worried people are going to bars later, let’s tell the truth and close down the bar. Public health thrives on real talk.https://twitter.com/justthefacts37/status/1279457213401178113 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Information Junkie  👨‍💻 @JustTheFacts37
      Replying to @zeynep
      So many beaches in Florida are closed today, needlessly People are either going to crowd together at the ones that are open, or just congregate together in smaller, perhaps indoor, environments Counterproductive
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      Many problems with the unscientific scolding of beach and park-goers. Indoor restaurants? No way. But if everything appears equally bad and banned, people will break the rules as they see fit rather than in an evidence-based way. We’re all worse off.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      Public health can’t function assuming people don’t notice what’s actually going on. Remember how we screwed up the masks? Officials told us they were not useful, or even harmful, but we later learned all that was motivated by the shortage. Way to lose trust. Tell the truth.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      It’s six months in. There are many papers studies and examples. Beaches and parks aren’t the high-risk settings. “What why can’t people just stay home?” Not everyone has space or a backyard. Outdoors is good for physical and mental health. Wind and sunshine reduce risk.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      And all those distorted photo angles, the lenses that make it look more crowded than it actually is? Way to lose trust and messaging power. My mentions are full of people telling me a ventilator is waiting for me. Unscientific scaremongering doesn’t have potency though.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      The epidemic devastates nursing homes, prisons, meat-packing plants. Epidemiologists find big clusters from indoor restaurants, bars, weddings. But where is this "grim reaper" dude and his retweets? Yeah, who you gonna believe, your lying eyes or the baseless scaremongering?pic.twitter.com/s71xxrNwOi

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

          We cannot win against an epidemic if we cannot get the messaging right. A pandemic is a communication emergency. We need the full truth not the paternalism we got about masks; we need guidance about relative risk not scaremongering about beaches. Alas. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/it-okay-go-beach/613849/ …pic.twitter.com/Y309ZmJ43S

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

          What on earth does that very sparsely populated, vast beach have anything to do with this headline? Why are people still sharing these images? After months of epidemiological data showing the overwhelming importance of *indoor* transmission, this is straight up misinformation.pic.twitter.com/5Sb3DAX9yJ

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Crunchy Margherita

          Yeah, pandemic theater that plays to the outrage not the science will not help us. The cluster are indoors—bars and restaurants especially. Most vulnerable populations are workers, especially in congregate settings, and people in prisons and nursing homes.https://twitter.com/gregg_walls/status/1279757382994845698 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Crunchy Margherita @gregg_walls
          Replying to @zeynep
          Politicians have to look like they are doing something. Close the beaches, even if scientifically it makes less sense, the economic hit isn’t as hard. Close bars/restaurants and it “looks like” you’re shutting down the economy. Follow the money not the logic.
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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jul 2020

          LOL me. In a local Facebook group, folks were freaking out over something close to zero risk—comparable to things we did without a thought before the pandemic—wrote a reply showing the extensive statistics and then looked at previous comments of sympathy-anxiety and.. deleted it.

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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jul 2020

          In Feb/March, I was really frustrated as people dismissed something was clearly a real risk. I got treated like a needlessly anxious person. I was like, if a tsunami may be coming, please, let's be anxious. Now, it's flipped, there is overwhelming anxiety regardless of evidence.

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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ranu Dhillon

          *This* is what we should be talking about. The people at risk are the "essential workers" who can't work via zoom/slack, people in nursing homes and prisons, and people who attend crowded indoor places (restaurants/bars). We need to address the real risk.https://twitter.com/RanuDhillon/status/1279540201618993152 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Ranu Dhillon @RanuDhillon
          Just finished a stretch in Bay Area hospitals with ~10% of patients with Covid Every Covid+patient was a person of color & either worked at a food processing plant, nursing home, lived w/someone who did or worked at a fast food restaurant w/someone who lived w/someone who did
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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jul 2020

          Doctor in CA says COVID patients are almost all people of color working in food plants, nursing homes or low-wage service jobs. What's the photo media uses to illustrate the crisis? A beach, where people are outdoors and spaced out. This is a form for misinformation. @RanuDhillonpic.twitter.com/MXg7Ki2lRy

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        9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jul 2020

          *of misinformation. 😬

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        10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jul 2020

          Of course, the correspondent is naturally posing in front of a beach! Never mind that the most risk is to low-wage workers, nursing home residents, food plant employees, prisoners and *indoor* bar and restaurant goers! A vast random beach!pic.twitter.com/3zj40x6c84

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        11. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jul 2020

          Yes Princeton, NJ known for *checks notes* its lack of beaches. Either that, or everybody kept a really solid secret from me the year I spent at Princeton University. But whatever, bring on the beach scolding.pic.twitter.com/qPImdhhmXG

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        12. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Julia Marcus, PhD, MPH

          😍https://twitter.com/julialmarcus/status/1280489487487942656 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Julia Marcus, PhD, MPHVerified account @JuliaLMarcus
          A breath of fresh air after all the moral outrage about beaches. Thanks @nytimes for these beautiful photos of people enjoying their lives safely. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/07/nyregion/nyc-beaches-open.html …
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        13. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Jul 2020

          95% of COVID deaths in Sweden are from people over 60, and almost 70% are from people over 80 mostly because Sweden did a terrible job protecting nursing homes and the elderly. What's the picture in the NYT Sweden article? Young people outdoors—among the least risky activities.pic.twitter.com/DLKSkTwq7s

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        14. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Jul 2020

          Young people getting infected in CA are often low-wage essential workers or people who go to indoor bars/parties. Naturally, LATimes picks one of the least risky activities locals can do to illustrate “risk.” Gee, I wonder why public health messaging isn’t getting through. 🤔pic.twitter.com/HafdMvtCKM

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        15. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Michael Hart

          Text: The common denominator of the cases were that transmission happened indoors in restaurants and bars! Photo editor: "how about some people in bathing suits?" Someone? "Yes, sure go for it, we are here to misinform."https://twitter.com/hichaelmart/status/1282388807573295104 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Michael Hart @hichaelmart
          Still can't help themselves. Let's show photos of a dozen ppl outside right above the text that shows it's got nothing to do with where they *actually* found the cases cc/ @zeynep pic.twitter.com/xLMaZOREcc
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        16. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted

          California is closing indoor restaurants and bars because the data show that’s where transmission occurs, along with workplaces. Of course, bring on the beach photos—there is not a single confirmed significant outbreak at a beach, but why let that stop us? https://twitter.com/xxiborza/status/1282814799152218112 …

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        17. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Suzanne Goldenberg

          Narrator: It's been months and there is NOT ONE KNOWN SUPERSPREADER EVENT IN A BEACH which makes sense because of sun & wind. Way to misinform, Washington Post photo editor. At this rate, we can't organize our way out of a paper bag, let alone a pandemic.https://twitter.com/suzyji/status/1284604361453297671 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Suzanne GoldenbergVerified account @suzyji
          Fascinating. Coronavirus superspreaders: Some people spread the virus with much greater efficiency - The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/18/coronavirus-superspreading-events-drive-pandemic/ …
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        18. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jul 2020

          Article: "Superspreader events are indoors". Also article: "Top expert says he avoids buses and takes his walks by the sea." Photo editor: "We put photo of a beach, right?". Good job, @washingtonpost.🙄pic.twitter.com/GmWOoY3gzv

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        19. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ranu Dhillon

          The inordinate focus on beaches is unscientific, counter-productive (scaring people away from safe outdoor activities) and, worse, hides the true dangers and real victims of this pandemic. Such a big failure, and there seem to be no way to stop it.https://twitter.com/RanuDhillon/status/1284883221289689089 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Ranu Dhillon @RanuDhillon
          Just finished a night shift at a Bay Area hospital where Covid patients make up ~15% of all inpatients & nearly half of a full ICU All are either essential workers or live with someone who is & all but one is a person of color None of them got infected at a beach or outdoors
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        20. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jul 2020

          Yes, let’s illustrate the crisis with widely-spaced people outdoors in a vast and sunny beach, @business. Very, very informative.pic.twitter.com/RrxmtrwkAs

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        21. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jul 2020

          Doctors report that many of those infected with COVID are essential workers, many people of color, living in crowded housing. What does media fixate on? Young people doing safe and good things (outdoors, distanced exercise.) Triple whammy: erase victims, moralize, misinform.pic.twitter.com/HAzUaZ7XxP

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        22. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jul 2020

          Good one, @sfchronicle. Story is about *contact-tracing*. The photo is ::drumroll:: a telephoto beach picture from *two-months ago* where the caption even says what everyone can see: people are spread apart. These visuals are misinformation. h/t @sethjbermanpic.twitter.com/N5qxZrbZOk

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        23. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted

          Answering not to dunk, but to show the detrimental effects of misinformation. Months of research shows prolonged close contact (many minutes) in poorly-ventilated, indoor settings is driving the pandemic. Not a single known superspreader event in beaches. https://twitter.com/goobisgoofy/status/1285261006848110592 …

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        24. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jul 2020

          This is a Pareto Pandemic. A small category of events in specific settings—indoors, crowded, close-quarters, talking/breathing—are driving most of it, along with later household spread. Being misinformed with the non-stop beach/park photos makes it hard to do the right thing.

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        25. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Jul 2020

          I'm just trying to imagine a less appropriate picture to indicate the need for and the struggle over masks and failing! WTH @washingtonpost? Seriously, this obsession with beach pictures has moved beyond misinformation into something pathological. h/t @makingarecordpic.twitter.com/bT9sBkQjDX

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        26. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jul 2020

          The idea that we can merely rely on strengthening traditional media to fight misinformation is naive. No joke. Many top media outlets are engaged in a persistent campaign of visual misinformation (the most powerful kind) about COVID risks (which aren't beaches). h/t @dbchhbrpic.twitter.com/GE4M09DysY

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        27. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jul 2020

          We screwed up the testing infrastructure so badly that people are waiting two weeks to get their results. Surely, @Oregonian, it's the fault of these people undertaking an enjoyable, safe activity! By having fun safely, they've caused the labs to come to a halt. h/t @joeahandpic.twitter.com/NfANTDfOKC

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        28. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2020

          Yes, @BBCNews, articles about Sweden and COVID must be illustrated by ... a beach picture, as Sweden is famous for beaches driving the pandemic! (The epidemiologists are all lying when they say there isn't a single known superspreader event on a beach). (ht @geunsmeyer)pic.twitter.com/Yo3YOYJ7ML

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        29. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2020

          You'd think this virus exclusively lives on beaches and preys on anyone daring to enjoy them. If they want to illustrate travel risks, isn't there a single picture of a bar, an indoor party or any of those things that we know are high risk? But hey can't compete with bikini pics!pic.twitter.com/bvqdz9qW70

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        30. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted PastaMonkey

          I agree. Doctors are reporting emergency rooms full of "essential workers"—basically low-wage and largely non-white younger people who got forced back to indoors work or their family members. But media is stuck on moralizing about beaches. Misinformation.https://twitter.com/monkey_pasta/status/1287196060620853249 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          PastaMonkey @monkey_pasta
          Replying to @zeynep
          https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/25/metro/heat-humidity-make-return-visit-greater-boston/ … Boston Globe today. At this point, the misinformation by the media is criminal and dangerous.
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        31. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2020

          This was the Boston Globe headline, by the way, to add to the thread of shame. People going to the beach, especially in or near the town they already live in, is a safe and healthy activity. How about we focus on the risks, the essential workers and the colleges about to open.pic.twitter.com/Qpk7Bn1g2l

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