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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020

      Enough with the beach-scolding! It's not scientifically-sound and it's counterproductive. It's a virus—not a moral agent geared to smite people who dare enjoy themselves. Six months in, we *know* most risk is indoors. More knowledge, less baseless outrage. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/it-okay-go-beach/613849/ …pic.twitter.com/rM3uC1pHI6

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    2. (((John J))) Lafayette Township Committeeman‏ @trianglman 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @FiloSottile

      crowded beaches are still transmission hotspots, about a dozen cases can be traced back to one sick person at that infamous Lake Ozark picture from Memorial Day. Yeah, a church is far more risky, but just being outside isn't protective, especially if you're not wearing masks

      9 replies 3 retweets 56 likes
    3. Mac Cook‏ @mcookKS 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @trianglman @zeynep @FiloSottile

      That was a bar, not a beach.

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    4. (((John J))) Lafayette Township Committeeman‏ @trianglman 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @mcookKS

      It was a bar on a beach that was 95% outdoors.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @trianglman

      The Lake of the Ozarks party did not result in a cluster. I’m not saying it was an advisable event, but this is exactly the problem. We only hear of the outrage, not the outcome.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. (((John J))) Lafayette Township Committeeman‏ @trianglman 4 Jul 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      It did, it took three weeks for testing to come though, but it did lead directly to 6-12 cases (I forget the final number). The day after Chris Hayes declared there was no outbreak from that event is the day the news broke about the cluster of cases.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jul 2020
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      Will look. As I said, I don’t think it was an advisable event, and I think it’s a very good idea to warn people away from parties. Beaches and parks are fine. If we conflate all the high and low risk activities, people don’t know what to actually avoid.

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        2. (((John J))) Lafayette Township Committeeman‏ @trianglman 4 Jul 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          It's not locations that are safe or not, it's activities and the size of the crowd that makes it safe or not. An empty beach or a large beach with just a couple people is safe. A crowded beach with hundreds of people is not.

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