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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted David Parry

      Yep. How often do you can you up speaking at a range closer than 1m with a stranger for 15+ minutes on a beach? It's really hard to truly pack a beach. And even then, it's outdoors (vast air) with sunlight, unlike anything indoors, let alone a bar!https://twitter.com/academicdave/status/1276860243771883538 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      David Parry @academicdave
      Replying to @zeynep
      Also a huge number of these photos are taken with lenses that distort perspective and make them seem more crowded
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

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      Yeah, this will work as well as abstinence-only sex education for teenagers—leads to more unsafe sex rather than less sex. You just cannot order people not to socialize for 18 months. What you can do is give evidence-based guidance on how: i.e. outdoors! https://twitter.com/JessMMac92/status/1276863433670103041 …

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

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      Very smart point. The unscientific, moralizing and you-know-what (bikini pics!) focus on beaches is not just wrong and counter-productive, it is a form of defeat. It turns epidemiology into a religion with a hierarchy of morals and encourages surrender. https://twitter.com/elsenorrocket/status/1276866054401273856 …

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted AWE

      Real issues! The answer is to manage that rather than obsessive condemnation of the least risky part. Open up local outdoors/parks to minimize travel. In vacation towns, outdoor seating or take-out only. No indoor bars. Encourage porch gatherings, etc.https://twitter.com/AndyWEllis/status/1276867536978448384 …

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      AWE @AndyWEllis
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      The % if people abiding by pod philosophy is astoundingly low. I also am unconcerned with on the beach activity, but the ancillary party/social activities afterward. No to mention, cross pollination of different groups from different states raises the national risk profile
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jennifer Wright

      Yeah, it's almost like they want to just keep publishing beach pictures! If it were 100s of pictures of risky indoor places and an occasional picture of a packed beach, we'd go meh, okay. Nothing is zero risk. But it's almost every article! Enough already.https://twitter.com/jaydeedubdesign/status/1276878111477583873 …

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      Jennifer Wright @jaydeedubdesign
      Replying to @zeynep
      Yes! The @orlandosentinel posted a beach pic accompanying a story about an increase in cases in Orange and Seminole counties, where there are No beaches!
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

      What more is there to say? Even places with *no beaches* (both in central Florida) get a beach picture to accompany reporting about increasing cases. 🙄 Again: it's a virus, not a religion. It's not going to disproportionately smite people who're having fun. ht @jaydeedubdesignpic.twitter.com/uIZ2i9LRqX

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jul 2020

      This photo is in an article in the Washington Post that has many reasonable and important points about unmasked crowding *indoors* in Myrtle beach. The caption? "Crowds pack the beach." Who you gonna believe, your lying eyes or the irresistible pull of misinforming moralizing?pic.twitter.com/9JtxUcU77n

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    8. Cathleen Fromm‏ @cathleen28 3 Jul 2020
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      That beach is NOT packed.

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    9. Cathleen Fromm‏ @cathleen28 3 Jul 2020
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      THIS beach is packed.pic.twitter.com/ACm7UrtIha

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    10. Cathleen Fromm‏ @cathleen28 3 Jul 2020
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      pic.twitter.com/pUiBIjrLGu

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jul 2020
      Replying to @cathleen28

      I'm looking at that picture, the vast, windy, sunny beach, and I bet nobody is within six feet of someone they did not come to the beach with for more than minute. WHO recommendation is three feet, and even indoors, Hong Kong experts consider 15 minutes to be exposure.

      7:05 PM - 3 Jul 2020
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        1. Cathleen Fromm‏ @cathleen28 3 Jul 2020
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          I have been there. It is oppressively crowded. People literally trip over or step on you walking to and from their chairs.That said, you aren’t necessarily within 3 feet of the SAME person for@15 mins, but that’s true when you walk thru any large crowd.

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