That pic is from one day when by all accounts the town had unprecedented numbers of visitors. It's not remotely typical of UK beaches during the pandemic
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Yes, but it happened. You can find 10 photos like this from California/NYC parks on any given day. So was not trying to make big statement about UK. My point, people so close together w/o masks anywhere is not good. I protested daily in NYC, we had masks. Still was worried a bit.
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And, certainly, it only takes one day.
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But we have to come up with a sustainable way of living. Imo it's crazy to discourage people from going to beaches, which are among the least risky public places, just because they might become dangerously crowded one time in a million
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No one is saying do not go to a beach--we were talking about risk+I believe the risk is there when it is crowded+people are w/o masks. So education is key. Beach, park, crowded outdoor restaurant--they all can bring serious risks. "Least risky" in some circumstances but not all.
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Lots of people are scaremongering about beaches and shaming beachgoers - that's what this thread's all about! I agree we need clear messaging on what the risks are, and certainly in the UK there's been a total failure to do this
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My point were beaches can be just as risky as other places. That people are being shamed+scared not to go I can't speak about. My daughter went to beach just yesterday, I told her like I do to every place: remain socially distanced, don't let guard down+don't swim w/o life guard.
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I'll leave it here but that's exactly the misunderstanding! The beaches are *not* as risky as other places, and that is such a dangerous public health message! Six months of epidemiology obsessive focus and no known big beach outbreak. But many many many dead because of indoors.
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See, you've been misled! As have ordinary people. It's terrible, because not explaining actual risk is of deadly consequence in a pandemic. That's why I think it's malpractice. But here we are! alas...
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I respect your opinion, but certainly I have not been "misled," if that is directed to me. That claim I might say is a bit presumptuous on your part.
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"Beaches can be as risky as anyplace" is misleading. Risk is not flat. We have six months of science now. You can decide what the best term for that is.
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I enjoyed our exchange+I learned some things (but still think it depends on circumstances as I highlight in our conversation). But to claim someone who does not agree with you has been "misled" isn't really a way to end an conversation. Is it? Very unfortunate choice of words.
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I do think people have been misled, but that's not about you!
That was the original reason for my thread, that the incorrect photo choice is misleading. But I'm okay with whatever word you think is best to describe something that doesn't reflect the underlying science.3 replies 0 retweets 1 like - Show replies
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