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    1. Louis Fishman لوي فيشمان לואי פישמן‏Verified account @Istanbultelaviv 26 Jun 2020

      Louis Fishman لوي فيشمان לואי פישמן Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Not to sure about this. Plenty of beaches are packed with people, literally waves pushing people into one another. Seems like the risk is actually quite high--especially since you do not see masks on these people (not to mention one does not enter water with a mask).https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1276587493316595712 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Can we please have a talk with the photo editors? ENOUGH WITH THE BEACH PICTURES ruining articles.😡 Beaches are one of the least risky environments. Indoor bars and restaurants. House parties. Indoor gatherings where unmasked people talk. Not beaches. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/us/coronavirus-cases-young-people.html …
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    2. Eleni Const.‏ @Eleni_Co 26 Jun 2020
      Replying to @Istanbultelaviv

      It's not about masks in beaches actually. It's all about crowded..Like in UK 2 days ago.

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    3. Louis Fishman لوي فيشمان לואי פישמן‏Verified account @Istanbultelaviv 26 Jun 2020
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      Yes, of course that too!

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020
      Replying to @Istanbultelaviv @Eleni_Co

      Yes people should not be packed but "packed" in a beach isn't really packed. It's outdoors, so the virus is diluted by open air and subject to sunlight. And when are you closer than 1m to a stranger for 15 minutes on a beach? We've had packed beaches for months & no big outbreak.

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    5. Louis Fishman لوي فيشمان לואי פישמן‏Verified account @Istanbultelaviv 27 Jun 2020
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      Yes, no one talked about a mask, but I cannot imagine that beaches in the UK and California are safe. I am not sure where you are and of course beaches are safe like parks in that sense. But parks too seem borderline at times in NYC. This pic from UK speaks volumes.pic.twitter.com/mzwH62zAtK

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020
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      Actually, let's see in three weeks. There have been many many such pictures over the past months with no spikes. Look at how much air there is over those people and do you really see anyone packed closer than 1m? It's very hard to get that close to a stranger in a bathing suit.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @Istanbultelaviv @Eleni_Co

          Would I pack a beach? No, I'd recommend congestion management. But the over-sized reaction to the picture is visceral, not scientific. Six months of epidemiology under our belts, we should focus on findings. Even that bad is much less packed or risky compared to *any* bar.

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        2. James Ryan‏ @jdryan08 27 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @Istanbultelaviv @Eleni_Co

          Besides, close the beaches and the pools bc of fears of overcrowding this summer and people are gonna start swimming in places they really shouldn’t be.

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        3. James E. Baldwin‏ @james_e_baldwin 27 Jun 2020
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          At the beginning of the lockdown in UK they withdrew lifeguards in SW to discourage people from going to the beach, and then several people drowned

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