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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Jun 2020

      Can we please have a talk with the photo editors? ENOUGH WITH THE BEACH PICTURES ruining articles.😡 Beaches are one of the least risky environments. Indoor bars and restaurants. House parties. Indoor gatherings where unmasked people talk. Not beaches.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/us/coronavirus-cases-young-people.html …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Jun 2020

      What's the top comment? "Stay inside, save lives." Nope. "Staying inside" itself has many harms, is not sustainable for another year, and outdoors is important for mental and physical health. The problem isn't young ones having fun, it's doing risky things which are... indoors.pic.twitter.com/kxS5iAawBx

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Jun 2020

      This virus is not a moral agent that will disproportionately smite young people who annoy their elders with all their fun or one's ideological enemies. It spreads with some behaviors and settings that are not in a moral or ideological hierarchy. It's not a religion, it's a virus.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jen Simmons

      If people will socialize, beaches are likely the least worst option. Vast open air, sunlight and space. We have six months of epidemiology now on *actual* high-risk settings. Beaches and parks are not on the list. But so many articles use those pictures.🙄https://twitter.com/jensimmons/status/1276588972479778819 …

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      Jen Simmons @jensimmons
      Ugh! The ‘secret’ house parties people are having.... “it's only 8 people. Sure, everyone who came each went to an another party yesterday, with a different 5-10 people, all indoors, all in small apartments — but what’s wrong with that? We need to get out & socialize!“ https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1276587493316595712 …
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

          Here's a piece I wrote on April 7th, lining up the evidence for keeping parks (and yes) beaches open with sensible guidelines, and avoid devolving into pandemic theater because it would be unsustainable, would backfire and end up with polarization, not results. So that went well.pic.twitter.com/WoXZNsCeYC

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted David Parry

          Yep. How often do you can you up speaking at a range closer than 1m with a stranger for 15+ minutes on a beach? It's really hard to truly pack a beach. And even then, it's outdoors (vast air) with sunlight, unlike anything indoors, let alone a bar!https://twitter.com/academicdave/status/1276860243771883538 …

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          David Parry @academicdave
          Replying to @zeynep
          Also a huge number of these photos are taken with lenses that distort perspective and make them seem more crowded
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

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          Yeah, this will work as well as abstinence-only sex education for teenagers—leads to more unsafe sex rather than less sex. You just cannot order people not to socialize for 18 months. What you can do is give evidence-based guidance on how: i.e. outdoors! https://twitter.com/JessMMac92/status/1276863433670103041 …

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

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          Very smart point. The unscientific, moralizing and you-know-what (bikini pics!) focus on beaches is not just wrong and counter-productive, it is a form of defeat. It turns epidemiology into a religion with a hierarchy of morals and encourages surrender. https://twitter.com/elsenorrocket/status/1276866054401273856 …

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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted AWE

          Real issues! The answer is to manage that rather than obsessive condemnation of the least risky part. Open up local outdoors/parks to minimize travel. In vacation towns, outdoor seating or take-out only. No indoor bars. Encourage porch gatherings, etc.https://twitter.com/AndyWEllis/status/1276867536978448384 …

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          AWE @AndyWEllis
          Replying to @zeynep @VirginiaBuysse
          The % if people abiding by pod philosophy is astoundingly low. I also am unconcerned with on the beach activity, but the ancillary party/social activities afterward. No to mention, cross pollination of different groups from different states raises the national risk profile
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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jennifer Wright

          Yeah, it's almost like they want to just keep publishing beach pictures! If it were 100s of pictures of risky indoor places and an occasional picture of a packed beach, we'd go meh, okay. Nothing is zero risk. But it's almost every article! Enough already.https://twitter.com/jaydeedubdesign/status/1276878111477583873 …

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          Jennifer Wright @jaydeedubdesign
          Replying to @zeynep
          Yes! The @orlandosentinel posted a beach pic accompanying a story about an increase in cases in Orange and Seminole counties, where there are No beaches!
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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Jun 2020

          What more is there to say? Even places with *no beaches* (both in central Florida) get a beach picture to accompany reporting about increasing cases. 🙄 Again: it's a virus, not a religion. It's not going to disproportionately smite people who're having fun. ht @jaydeedubdesignpic.twitter.com/uIZ2i9LRqX

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        9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jul 2020

          This photo is in an article in the Washington Post that has many reasonable and important points about unmasked crowding *indoors* in Myrtle beach. The caption? "Crowds pack the beach." Who you gonna believe, your lying eyes or the irresistible pull of misinforming moralizing?pic.twitter.com/9JtxUcU77n

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        10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Jul 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Vic Micolucci WJXT

          At this point, this “grim reaper” beach performance isn’t about the pandemic or this virus. It’s straight up moralizing about sinful behavior. Terrible from a public health stand. Those people are not doing anything high-risk, as one’s own eyes can see.https://twitter.com/wjxtvic/status/1279087603862704128 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Vic Micolucci WJXTVerified account @WJXTvic
          GRIM REAPER IN JAX BEACH: Florida attorney @DWUhlfelderLaw dressed as the reaper lurked in Jacksonville Beach today, warning people of the dangers of crowds and COVID-19. Some took his message to heart, while others accused him of fear mongering. More on @wjxt4. pic.twitter.com/jWer1IY2f9
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        2. Ann Blocker‏ @antsybee 27 Jun 2020

          In Austin, you can gather with up to 10 people now (if you consider yourself low risk). Recommended outdoors, byo-everything, 6ft apart—e.g., backyard brunch, HH. Or did something change?

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