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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jun 2020

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Katherine Cross

    This here is so important. We have to convince people. The waves of shaming we've seen has often missed its mark (shaming distanced people in beaches and parks!) but even when it does not, and targets risky behavior, it does not work—it just makes people dig in more.https://twitter.com/Quinnae_Moon/status/1274154721549287425 …

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    Katherine CrossVerified account @Quinnae_Moon
    But beyond even this, there's a larger problem at work here that epidemiologists have been frantically trying to tell you about. Shame undermines our efforts to combat the pandemic. Fatally.
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jun 2020

        Yes, I know where the polarization, around masks, especially is coming from. Some of the earliest adopters of masks were Republican senators (yes, really) but the GOP base is Trump's party, not theirs. He *wants* to polarize around this, and the shaming is his oxygen and fuel.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jun 2020

        So, a Turkish proverb asks "do you want to beat up the man who guards the vineyard, or do you want to eat some grapes?" I understand the anger and the frustration, but it's a pandemic. Also, yeah, a lot of the shaming did miss the mark and was misplaced and inappropriate. Truce.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jun 2020

        We need harm-reduction guidance, realize some confusion is due to failures of messaging (Masks are harmful! Wait, mask refusal is murder! Asymptomatic spread! No! Stay indoors! Actually, no!) and space for people to get their own "tribe" to mask up. Nobody has a magic wand here.

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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Jun 2020

        Early on, I argued with many anti-mask experts that masks were not likely to cause more risk-taking because of false sense of security and there was no way for only the sick to wear masks because of how stigma operates. Now, please see the reverse: shaming entrenches opposition.

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      1. Veronica Schanoes‏ @schanoes 20 Jun 2020
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        This assumes that the people being shamed would be convinceable otherwise. I don't see much reason to believe that, given all the givens.

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      1. what's so funny about peace love & understanding?‏ @CurseYouKhan 20 Jun 2020
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        People never ask themselves the key question "How would I respond to this?" You don't yell at someone if you're trying to get them to change what they're doing. I think the yelling is frustration and/or wanting to feel superior.

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      1. The Paranoid Puck‏ @theparanoidpuck 20 Jun 2020
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        What happens when people who believed in distancing give up on it? Just because things are open again? I could name a ton of friends that have whiplash. I’ve been shamed for still isolating. I had good reason to and still do. Apparently they never believed in it.

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      1. Turing Pest‏ @Krikalitika 20 Jun 2020
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        I can probably do much better on this point tbh

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