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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Apoorva Mandavilli‏Verified account @apoorva_nyc 19 Jun 2020

      Apoorva Mandavilli Retweeted Laura Helmuth

      So much this. Especially on Twitter, but more dangerously in published papers.https://twitter.com/laurahelmuth/status/1273979510019502080 …

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      Laura HelmuthVerified account @laurahelmuth
      There is an "epidemic of armchair epidemiology" right now as people with expertise in other areas overconfidently claim to explain the coronavirus pandemic and really just get in the way. By Nathan Ballantyne & @daviddunning6 on @SciAm https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/which-experts-should-you-listen-to-during-the-pandemic/ …
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    2. Vincent Rajkumar‏Verified account @VincentRK 19 Jun 2020
      Replying to @apoorva_nyc

      My problem is with established experts in epidemiology doing long podcasts saying masks don’t work. This is then very hard to undo.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Apoorva Mandavilli‏Verified account @apoorva_nyc 19 Jun 2020
      Replying to @VincentRK

      If you're referring to Dr. Osterholm, I don't think he said masks *don't* work, just that the evidence is variable depending on which kind of mask you're talking about.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jun 2020
      Replying to @apoorva_nyc @VincentRK

      He did! He said they were just cosmetic, feel-good etc.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jun 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @apoorva_nyc @VincentRK

      Also, so many public health experts at the time were arguing, incorrectly, that there was a risk of false sense of security (no evidence to think that, and evidence not to think that) and that incorrect wearing would increase risk of infection (how? no evidence for that either).

      11:56 AM - 19 Jun 2020
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apoorva_nyc @VincentRK

          Many were doctors who couldn't grasp the difference between PPE at a hospital setting where incorrect wearing *compared to correct wearing* was indeed worse for self-protection and community-mask wearing for source protection compared to *no masks*. I caught so much grief!

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apoorva_nyc @VincentRK

          There was a viral Forbes article titled something like "masks increase risk"--still being shared by mask-deniers (though they finally changed headline). Almost every outlet ran these stories that made no sense, but they ran them. Many viral threads by experts in the field...

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        2. John Reynolds‏ @atikyogi 19 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @apoorva_nyc @VincentRK

          This is still a widely held view on #EpiTwitter

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jun 2020
          Replying to @atikyogi @apoorva_nyc @VincentRK

          I know. I still encounter it. Osterholm still makes that claim (no evidence, ignoring evidence to the contrary). I'm not against the idea that it's something to keep an eye out for but given past data, it would be a huge surprise and we already have counter evidence.

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