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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      This has gone viral but can someone point me to what on earth is this growing evidence? And why is yet another "simulation" study being reported like this (remember the joggers and their viruses?) This stuff leads panicked authorities to overreact! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/health/coronavirus-toilets-flushing.html … https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1272942042717569024 …pic.twitter.com/6LiOCZxLg5

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      Panicky authorities around the world are closing down parks because they don't want to keep toilets open. Yes, please close the lid and wash your hands. But simulation on a computer is not "growing" evidence of actual transmission—if anything, lack of actual cases is striking!

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      I remember an earlier NYT article about aerosols which was super panicky and got people worried. In that case, the author neglected to mention the aerosols in the study were mechanically generated in a lab by the researchers to.. study aerosols. Let's panic after actual evidence?

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Dr. Saskia Popescu

      And here's a good thread on the misplaced toilet panic.https://twitter.com/SaskiaPopescu/status/1273014716583997440 …

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      Dr. Saskia PopescuVerified account @SaskiaPopescu
      Third - many of these studies use PCR, which is highly sensitive but that doesn’t mean the sample is getting an actual virus that can cause infections vs viral fragments. Fourth- no cases have been found as a result of this transmission route, which is a good indicator (3/x)
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Dr. Tara C. Smith

      More on the misplaced toilet panic. Fewer sensationalized articles based on computer simulations and little else, more consultations with an range of actual experts before publishing would be great.https://twitter.com/aetiology/status/1273024556148625409 …

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      Dr. Tara C. SmithVerified account @aetiology
      Who knew I'd spend 2020 reading about toilet plumes? But this thread is exactly right. Yes, shut the lid if you can (there are other pathogens besides CoV!), but if you're in public, prudent to be quick just in case but no need to freak out. Unlikely to be a key route of spread. https://twitter.com/SaskiaPopescu/status/1273013677784854528 …
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Matthew Noah Smith

      Yep! That's one big problem with these sensationalized pieces about the mutantninjasupervirus. Helplessness can cause people to give up. The other is that they cause authorities to overreact.https://twitter.com/elsenorrocket/status/1273027585463771136 …

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      Matthew Noah Smith @MattNoahSmith
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      Let’s talk a bit about the problem of catastrophizing. If you make people feel hopeless, they will cease feeling like it’s worth it to take any measures to contain the pandemic. If every fleeting interaction, every human activity, every surface threatens every person w/ infection
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        1. SwiftOnSecurity‏ @SwiftOnSecurity 16 Jun 2020
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          Similar in Computer Security. There are innumerable weaknesses and permutations of risks, but there are only a few things any computer user has to do to actually do to be protected from 99.99% of threats. You don’t need to stop browsing the web. We reject that fear as unhelpful.

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        1. Adrien Trocmé‏ @CheikhAdhair 16 Jun 2020
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          Do you remember that one ? Real conditions and test conditions generate different results ... https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/30/wide-range-of-cars-emit-more-pollution-in-real-driving-conditions-tests-show …

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        1. Jozef Volodia‏ @foonction 16 Jun 2020
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          Wasn't there an outbreak of sars in HK in 2003 tracked to a sewage system in a building?

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