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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      One night at a bar: a women and 15 of her friends, none of whom were wearing masks, are infected by COVID (after two months of staying home, too!). Plus seven staff. This tracks with so many studies now. Indoors, unmasked, talking/singing, at length. https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/06/15/woman-15-friends-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-night-out-at-lynchs/ …pic.twitter.com/zFMkP5NVjF

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jun 2020

      I know people want to socialize. A distanced porch party, a walk together outdoors, even an outdoors restaurant are much better bets, and allow people to see one another with a much lower risk profile. Extended indoors contact in crowded, confined settings is much higher risk.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jun 2020

          An Oregon church kept holding services where large numbers of people gathered without masks, over time and in close contact. Now there is an outbreak. 356 people were tested — 66% tested positive and five are hospitalized. https://www.lagrandeobserver.com/coronavirus/covid-19-explosion/article_feb41198-af5c-11ea-b466-9bb49be5644c.html … and https://apnews.com/b2d7a8af05e862dc3e1d1c3d0cf0afd0 …pic.twitter.com/zBdohXYDkG

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jun 2020

          Given that the Oregon church is likely a close-knit community it's plausible that some seeding was done earlier (they moved outdoors on April 12) and some of this is secondary or tertiary attacks at households, but also some outdoors: prolonged talking/singing? without masks.

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jun 2020

          Outdoor church may be plausible but not like what this church has done. It should, at a minimum, have masks, minimal talking at close range between participants, distance, special care for vulnerable populations (like the elderly), limiting crowd size (staggered gathering)...

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        1. Jon Becker‏ @jonbecker 16 Jun 2020
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          You mean like a campaign rally in an arena?

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        2.  🦉 💜 Socratica Kim  💜 🦉‏ @SocraticaKim 16 Jun 2020

          Also Simon says 😁

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        1. Siva Raj‏ @jaravis 16 Jun 2020
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          We're doing socially distanced potlucks in the park ... also seeing socially distanced block parties. There's many ways to get social without risking infection.

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        1. harvest dance‏ @bandofbricks 16 Jun 2020
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          Block parties. BYOB, own food, own chairs. Or let bars serve outdoors. They took over sidewalks for smoking bans, do something similar for drinking in the street. In Stuttgart, town center, there are / were beer kiosks, with deposits on mugs.

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        1. A Marm Kilpatrick‏ @DiseaseEcology 16 Jun 2020
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          Sadly, a perfect example of this:https://twitter.com/DiseaseEcology/status/1272271151750758401 …

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          Another example: Many very well informed people (including older at-risk people!) are now going to indoor dinner parties at other households. In my county there were many mothers' day gatherings & spreading events at 4 of them led to >50 cases so far.
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        1. Todd R. Johnson‏ @johnsontoddr4 16 Jun 2020
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          My 12 and 13 year olds are on Discord constantly with multiple friends and relatives. I think it helped that they would have house parties in the past and still use online methods to connect from room to room (in the same house!) while they were playing games online.

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