Also look at the CDC’s guidance from that time period. That’s where the info came from.
-
-
Replying to @RVAwonk @ggreenwald
Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D Retweeted Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D
And the surgeon general. https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/1241493278173868038?s=21 …https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1241493278173868038 …
Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D added,
3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes -
Replying to @RVAwonk @ggreenwald
Happy to discuss the evolving nature of science, poor communication from government & medical orgs, & the lack of consensus surrounding mask usage. But I’m not sure what you’re getting at by pointing to a thread (based on CDC guidelines) about the need for clear communication.
4 replies 2 retweets 11 likes -
Replying to @RVAwonk @ggreenwald
That's why I didn't single you out but you realize every single thing you claimed in that viral thread (and I tried to tell you otherwise) was wrong? The alleged increased risk, false sense of security, lack of benefit? Every single claim you made except shortage was 100% wrong.
2 replies 3 retweets 36 likes -
Replying to @zeynep @ggreenwald
Just to be clear: Those claims claim from the CDC. And yes, most turned out to be wrong. Also, at the time, there was little (if any) distinction between protecting self vs others. But do we have research from US showing that mask usage doesn’t confer a false sense of security?
1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes -
Replying to @RVAwonk @ggreenwald
Yes, they came from the CDC and they were all wrong. That's my point, and I kept trying to talk with people like you to point to the evidence that they were wrong. And for lack of false sense of security? Yes, we have decades of evidence from many other safety devices.
2 replies 1 retweet 23 likes -
As I very publicly argued back then, false sense of security is trotted out against every safety device/intervention (seat belts, helmets, safe sex) and has been researched to death. You can find individual examples, but it never overwhelms the safety benefit. But that's not all.
3 replies 2 retweets 30 likes -
Also, if it were true, it would just as much apply to hand-washing or even distancing. (But good news, it's not true). Plus, there is all the experience of Asia. Plus, social science suggested that masks would *increase* overall caution. But even that's not all.
1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes -
We have since had actual research from this pandemic that shows, unsurprisingly, that the actual result is, as expected, masks increase distancing behaviors (how could they not?). False sense of security for safety devices, to put it politely, is pop psychology.
1 reply 5 retweets 21 likes -
There was also no of evidence or even a logical claim for "harms" of mask wearing compared to no masks. Most relevant studies were about health care workers and they compared some masks to other masks. Not ever to no masks. Plus not for egress (PPE is ingress).
2 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
And the asymptomatic transmission? I wrote a NYT op-ed trashing the misleading of the public by the CDC and the WHO in mid-March & I could point to asymptomatic transmission as a key reason because.. well, the research was out! I'm not the only one in the world with eyes, right?pic.twitter.com/xmPpLoTrob
-
-
Again, I am hoping people notice that this isn't "evolving" evidence. We were misled, and badly, and it is a great failure that there wasn't a loud and public push-back. Instead, many, like you, just repeated the CDC (I get it) and people like me were treated like anti-vaxxers.
2 replies 3 retweets 29 likes -
To emphasize: it's not about you. It was practically everyone. I never thought I'd spend the first months of a pandemic arguing with people that the CDC & the WHO are wrong. But that's what had to be done because that's where the facts were. The groupthink has been disappointing.
5 replies 1 retweet 18 likes - Show replies
New conversation -
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.