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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves and

      Okay. So I see having certain politics grants one sufficient immunity to disease and the law to make owen’s own judgement.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @zeynep and

      Can you just stop. No one is saying this. If you want to talk about balancing competing health risks in this country, how to stage reopening with harm reduction as a primary concern we can do that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @zeynep and

      The George Floyd protests, worthy as they may be, break the same regs that have been used to break up outdoor funerals, that prohibit socialization of extended families, that bar in-person therapies for children. You only started talking trade offs when you wanted something

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @gregggonsalves and

      This isn't fair. I've been talking trade-offs since end of March (when data started emerging) and people on this thread have been talking about trade-offs and harm reduction. Harm reduction is a very well-established public health framework. Authorities bungling things... Common.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves and

      Then maybe the focus should be on advising the authorities to update based on lates/best thought on outdoor transmission rather than spending time getting pissed at conservatives for noticing public health officials encouraging breaking the rules they enforced on others.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @zeynep and

      The point is we've been screaming this from the rooftops all along and people haven't been listening. We could have done this all better. We outlined a better path months ago. No one listened. Yet, we're the problem.

      1 reply 2 retweets 14 likes
    7. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @zeynep and

      Dr Levine in Pennsylvania has been forthright. The rules still apply to everyone’s wedding, or funeral, but not to the protests.

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    8. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @zeynep and

      But I do not know this Dr. Levine of whom you speak. I can say that many of us, like @JuliaLMarcus, @EpiEllie and others have been advocating a harm reduction approach for weeks, well in advance of these protests. We've also been crying out for more testing, tracing, isolating.

      5 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    9. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @zeynep and

      So did I. The line I’ve been using is: the people succeeded, and the government failed. Still it’s not great to read that widely cited open letter endorsing the continued enforcement of these overboard measures, except against protests of police brutality.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @gregggonsalves and

      I wouldn't have minded earlier open letters on harm reduction but many public health people did try. Maybe consider also telling people on your side of the argument that public health people have been trying hard to get the message out on harm reduction, before the protests, too.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @michaelbd and

      We've just cited tons of articles/quotes from all of us, advocating everything you're talking about, published in national/liberal outlets for months before the protests. Please don't portray it as "public health" only acted because they like the protests.

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