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    1. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @michaelbd

      No - it’s possible to both criticize the federal response (or lack thereof) and a seeming double standard when it comes to the protests. But in any case, I’m not saying the protesters shouldn’t have sung. I’m saying we should be similarly tolerant of other outdoor gatherings.

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    2. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @michaelbd

      Such as?

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    3. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @michaelbd

      Large outdoor funerals and religious services, most obviously. And, in a more general sense, all beaches and parks should be open, with social distancing.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @michaelbd

      I am ALL for harm reduction guidance on how to do this.

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    5. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @michaelbd

      I know. You’re being asked to answer, unfairly, for things other public-health ppl - and the media - said and did.

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    6. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @michaelbd

      But you've also got to realize for all your good-faith questions, there is some bit of political opportunism going on here from the right.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @JamesSurowiecki @michaelbd

      For sure. And not fair to have individuals (some of whom did the best work) to answer for the field (which faced the unfair barriers others have noted). But I think figuring out shortcomings and how to fight unfair barriers is the best way to fight opportunism, when it comes.

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    8. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves @JamesSurowiecki

      I don’t see it honestly. I was a Covid hawk back when some public health authorities were saying masks were racist. Greg is the one trying to score points here.

      4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @gregggonsalves @JamesSurowiecki

      You personally may have been a "hawk", though just like you are now having this conversation perhaps with the very public health people who did a lot to push for harm reduction frameworks, they are also seeing the opportunism which does exist and may not mean you.

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    10. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves @JamesSurowiecki

      There would be no “opportunism” if there were coherent answers.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @gregggonsalves @JamesSurowiecki

      There'd still be opportunism, but yes, coherent answers help. Everyone can fight "own" side opportunism better than others, but I agree public health folks should reflect on where the field fell short (even as a lot of it was unfair: media sensationalism that wasn't their doing).

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        2. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 6 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @michaelbd and

          Personally I don’t see a lot of coherence here.

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        3. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 6 Jun 2020
          Replying to @matthewstoller @zeynep and

          Thanks Matt for your snap-judgment on our entire field.

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