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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 May 2020

      I've seen many stories/tweets about two hairstylists who exposed 140 people by working for *eight days* while symptomatic. One, this shouldn't happen. Two, where's the follow up? Is anyone actually infected? If not, that should get as much news coverage.https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/missouri-hair-stylist-with-covid-19-worked-while-symptomatic-exposed-dozens-of-clients/2130222/ …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 May 2020

      I've seen so many tweets and stories with the same picture from a boardwalk in Maryland. I advocate for people avoiding crowds and wearing masks. On the other hand, those telephoto lens pics are misleading. Regardless: WILL THERE BE A FOLLOW UP? We need real info, not scolding.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 May 2020

      For months, there's been "you'll see in two weeks" posts/tweets about this beach, that park, that party. No, let's not hold crowded parties. Yes, let's wear masks. But most of those did not seem to cause the any spikes. Or did they? Where's the tracing? Where's the reporting?

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 May 2020

      If two symptomatic hair stylists worked for eight whole days with hundreds of people, we're going to learn a whole lot from the attack rate, but to do that we need to trace those customers *and* report on the findings. There is constant "you'll see!" but not enough "let's learn"!

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 May 2020

      As far as I can tell, nobody got infected from the two hairstylist who worked for eight days with 140 clients while symptomatic but wearing masks. Is this the case? I genuinely want to know what happened. How are we supposed to assess risk without data? https://www.springfieldmo.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx …

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2020

      It seems that there are no cases from the dreaded Ozark pool party where there was at least one infected person likely at peak of infectiousness It was 10 days ago, so may still see cases. But please folks: just don't shame and disappear. Follow up.https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/state-and-regional/no-new-covid-19-cases-from-lake-of-the-ozarks-crowds-missouri-health-director-says/article_6f36ad32-d125-5382-b78f-74bd0f6510ac.html …

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    7. Benjamin Hendricks‏ @recapitations 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @tvaziri

      Narrowly failing to cause a major outbreak is not a vindication nor a lesson about overreaction, just like Apollo 13 isn’t a movie about how we should relax NASA’s prep standards

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Jun 2020
      Replying to @recapitations @tvaziri

      Not arguing for relaxing standards without evidence, but for collecting evidence.

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        2. Benjamin Hendricks‏ @recapitations 6 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @tvaziri

          My response is around shaming people for shaming risk-takers. I’m all for gathering evidence and following science. But the public perception side of your tweet has implications beyond this event. I don’t want people to come away thinking “maybe those Ozark partiers were right!”

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        3. David Adams‏ @daveadams 6 Jun 2020
          Replying to @recapitations @zeynep @tvaziri

          The point is, if you shame, then follow up with the data showing you were right or wrong to do so.

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