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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. indica‏ @indica 5 Jun 2020
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      Zeynep, read this letter by Trump. Your piece makes the exact same points - delays, travel bans, Taiwan. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1262577580718395393 …

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    2. indica‏ @indica 5 Jun 2020
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      You make them better, but I wouldn't call you a defender of the WHO. And we need defenders. Again, they're helping us. China is helping us. America is not. And you're not.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2020
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      One, this is how you defend the WHO. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-world-health-organization-failed/610063/ … Two, Trump's letter is incoherent and but of course he picks up on whatever he finds, especially if sane people won't make the sane argument. Three, Trump argued military contractors were too powerful, for example.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2020
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      As for China helping. Yeah, sure the new hegemon who would like to dominate the world, instead of the United States order, also the one whose early cover-up led to the pandemic. If you would rather not criticize China, go ahead. It's one authoritarian model for the world.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2020
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      If you'd like a world where we gloss over WHO's major failures instead of trying to fix them and don't say anything about one kind of authoritarianism (not the only one! but one kind) whose failures have cost the world so much because of another kind... That's your stance.

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    6. indica‏ @indica 5 Jun 2020
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      And with all due respect, what can we do with your institutional reforms in five years? If we hate China enough is that a form of PPE? We need to defend the WHO, and you're just rewriting Trump's complaints

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2020
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      And I'd like to argue that people who'd actually like to fix things not talking about real issues is exactly what allows the kind of politics from which a Trump arises. It sucks to be in this position, but delaying trying to fix things just makes things worse and worse.

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    8. indica‏ @indica 5 Jun 2020
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      Zeynep, we're in the middle of a fire. You and Trump are talking about firefighter reforms. Defend the WHO now, get the fire out, then, by all means, fix things. Right now the biggest threat is not the WHO but the people attacking it. And that sadly, well-meaningly includes you.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2020
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      My analogy would be he wants to burn the whole thing down, and we should be trying to get better functioning fire extinguishers rather than avoiding talking about the ways they failed. I think leaving the "reform" talk to him is very dangerous—he will destroy it under that cover.

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    10. indica‏ @indica 5 Jun 2020
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      Uhhh, I would just take the fire extinguisher we have. Working with the WHO has worked for most countries in the world. PAHO did well in the Caribbean, they did a lot in Mongolia, in Africa. You're talking about an abstract problem when the WHO has worked for us on the ground.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2020
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      We have a global fire (the pandemic) that we might have avoided if the fire extinguisher did its job better. I mean, all analogies fail. Plus, someone's trying to destroy it completely & I'm telling you that I think circling the wagon will leave us with no fire extinguisher.

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