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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted no moniker

      About the the risk of COVID from the protests. Please note that, to date, there are very few known cases of outdoor transmission at all, but crowding 100 people into an indoors space overnight? Yes, that's how you get a spike. Jails and detention, not protesting, is the big risk.https://twitter.com/nomoniker_/status/1267611747667640321 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      no moniker @nomoniker_
      All of us were basically on our way home. They took us to a large garage with at least 100 other people they arrested that night. I say arrested, but I’m not actually sure. Talking to others, no one was given a reason why they were stopped, no one was read Miranda rights etc 6/
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Before the inevitable pile-on (always happens) about where was I when people were scolding folks for going to beaches and parks? I wrote a piece two months ago saying emerging evidence shows outdoor transmission risk is low, and called to keep parks open.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1247546543051345926 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      All over the world, the authorities are closing down parks and trails—but that's unsustainable, counterproductive and probably even harmful. Instead, we should adapt to the pandemic and retool them for social-distancing. My new piece on why and how. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/closing-parks-ineffective-pandemic-theater/609580/ … pic.twitter.com/Va2r4a6mT7
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Not Maureen Dowd

      It's certainly a risk, and many epidemiologists have provided harm reduction advice—masks, drums instead of shouting, distance. I'll link to a thread where I add my advice on helmets and shatterproof goggles. Still, jails and detention are the real risk.https://twitter.com/MaureenDowdTwit/status/1267891869268226050 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Not Maureen Dowd @MaureenDowdTwit
      Replying to @zeynep
      What about hundreds or thousands of people marching in close proximity for an hour or more, often shouting or chanting? Seems much more dangerous than small groups of people simply standing around near other groups in a park.
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      My thread with harm reduction advice on protesting during a pandemic and being near protests when police are behaving the way they are now. It's unconscionable to crowd people indoors right now simply because they're protesting or merely breaking curfew.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1266791481647534082 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      All good advice. Also, especially if you’re a journalist reporting from the front lines, consider wearing shatterproof goggles in addition to a helmet. Getting hit by a canister/tracer in the head or eye is usually the biggest threat in these situations. https://twitter.com/epiellie/status/1266752753797410822 …
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jake #BLM  ✊🏽

      We could see a spike from outdoor protesting, especially with packed crowds, yelling—and more so if people aren't wearing masks. It *is* a risk. But, to date, outdoors has been very low risk. But we *know* for sure indoors (jails/detention) is a high risk.https://twitter.com/CulturalAsthma/status/1267893393402875908?s=20 …

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      Jake #BLM  ✊🏽 @jaykin2020
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      I hear you on jails & detention (mentioned in the article below, too), but @TheAtlantic posted about this yesterday... Headline: The Protests Will Spread the Coronavirus The country should expect a spike in less than two weeks, public-health experts say. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/protests-pandemic/612460/ …
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Chesty Copperthot

          Folks, please send me your stories! Did they pack people indoors after arresting them? Were you tear gassed especially at close quarters? Did they make you take your mask off? We should document this. I'll try to collate and share.https://twitter.com/boreazepam/status/1267893677109714948 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Chesty Copperthot @boreazepam
          Replying to @kujo1017 @Aceinmysleeve1 @zeynep
          approx 4.500 ppl have been arrested (that does not conclude those detained on buses etc for hours & let go). the first thing they do is take your mask and shove you in a crowded space. it’s not great
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          Of course, as predicted, tons of people in my mentions are complaining to me about the lock-down rules. This is why I dislike quote-tweets. Folks, I've been arguing that parks and beaches should be open—with sensible guidelines—for months! Wrong target. 🙄https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1247546543051345926 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          All over the world, the authorities are closing down parks and trails—but that's unsustainable, counterproductive and probably even harmful. Instead, we should adapt to the pandemic and retool them for social-distancing. My new piece on why and how. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/closing-parks-ineffective-pandemic-theater/609580/ … pic.twitter.com/Va2r4a6mT7
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          I've tried a good deal to say that much of the beach/park scolding was not evidence-based. It's also not a bad thing to change one's mind as evidence emerges but on this particular topic, I haven't just decided outdoors is less risk because of protests.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1251710115700490241 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          I’m looking at this picture and all I see is people with way more than six feet between them in a sunny and well-ventilated area. I wish they had masks on, but what’s else is the problem? Given how large beaches are, is there a safer way to go outdoors? I don’t get beach outrage. https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1251260796476305409 …
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        1. StopYourLimits | New free substack: subscribe!‏ @limits_stop 2 Jun 2020
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          The outbreak in Bergamo started with an outdoor superspreading event. Not exactly low-risk.

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        1.  🏳️‍🌈GentlemanJack 🎩you are very pretty‏ @gjackstan 2 Jun 2020
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          Mardi Gras ffs. Are you high? Besides which, you think the protesters are only outside, not eating/planning/gathering/prepping in indoor spaces before/after high aerobic protesting activities, for hours on end, over days?

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