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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Larry Harris Jr

      Rumsfeld, 2003, on looting in Baghdad (which had devastating effects on Iraq long-term). "While no one condones looting... one can understand the pent-up feelings that may result from decades of repression and people who have had members of their family killed by that regime..."https://twitter.com/LarryOrnez/status/1267467825213571074 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

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      Larry Harris Jr @LarryOrnez
      Then U.S. Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, defending #looting in Iraq. April 12, 2003 “While no one condones looting...one can understand the pent-up feelings that may result from decades of repression...and taking their feelings out on the regime.” pic.twitter.com/Te5M6zGrzm
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted joshua

      It was more than understanding. They let it happen, unimpeded. The US military controlled Baghdad completely at that point (it was before the insurgency) and the city, including it's irreplaceable antiquities museum was looted, to great long-term damage.https://twitter.com/BlackJJosh/status/1267795503674163202 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      joshua @BlackJJosh
      Replying to @zeynep
      I like any chance to scorn Rumsfeld but I don't agree that understanding something is equal to defending something.
      5:43 AM - 2 Jun 2020
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jun 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted KT Lim

          Yes Rumsfeld said looting is a “transition to freedom”, and criticized focusing on it. Also: “U.S. military officials said U.S. forces do not intend to crack down on looting in Iraq because it might alienate the Iraqi people they are trying to win over.”https://twitter.com/drlimkt19/status/1267813687256997888 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          KT Lim @drlimkt19
          Rumsfeld on looting in Iraq in 2003. "Looting is a transition to Freedom". https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1267793416215236616 …
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        2. Joe Arasin‏ @arasin 2 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          That’s what’s it seems like is happening in SoHo. NYPD meets peaceful marches with escalating force creating chaos, but response to other situations seems designed to stimulate rich white folks demand for police crackdowns.

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        3. Joe Arasin‏ @arasin 2 Jun 2020
          Replying to @arasin @zeynep

          It feels like a protection racket. Create chaos, then sell order for a cost.

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        1. MalkyC‏ @MalkyC01 2 Jun 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          There's a brilliant documentary called No End in Sight by Charled Ferguson, which details this. It is horrific the destruction and carnage that they caused.

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        1. daniel‏ @dbchhbr 2 Jun 2020
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          I'm confused. Is this an argument for or against deploying the National Guard? I thought the progressive left is against deploying the National Guard?

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