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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Ryan Radia‏ @RyanRadia 24 May 2020
      Replying to @mgubrud @zeynep

      Right, this is a troubling large observational study, but the more important question is what RCTs reveal.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 May 2020
      Replying to @RyanRadia @mgubrud

      Yes, people who actually understand the difference have urgently checked the ongoing RCTs and found no harm to justify stopping the trials. History is full of observational studies being very very wrong. Unfortunately, many people don't understand statistics well enough.

      3 replies 2 retweets 5 likes
    3. Mark Gubrud‏ @mgubrud 24 May 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @RyanRadia

      The only explanation for the results that a true RCT would eliminate is that some preselective bias caused people with a heightened risk of ventricular arrythmias to be placed on drugs known to be capable of increasing that risk. Yes, it could be so. Weirder things have happened.

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    5. Mark Gubrud‏ @mgubrud 25 May 2020

      "all patients started therapy within 48 h of an established COVID-19 diagnosis" I think you meant to say ~20% of the CQ/HCQ patients ENDED UP on ventilators, as compared with only 8% of the much larger control group. +pic.twitter.com/HhS9GGS80B

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    7. Mark Gubrud‏ @mgubrud 25 May 2020

      Sorry, I was reading the paper, not somebody's tweet about it.

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    9. Mark Gubrud‏ @mgubrud 25 May 2020

      I suppose you could argue that everyone on the planet should just start taking HCQ now, because... something. Otherwise, we are in the paradigm of treating people who have confirmed cases of covid. The evidence is HCQ doesn't help these people, and actually does cause harm.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 May 2020

      Could you drop me from this conversation? Aa per my point up top, there are multiple randomized trials underway, with appropriate pauses to check for harms, and I would like to wait for actual results rather than pointlessly speculate.

      5:02 PM - 25 May 2020
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        2. Mark Gubrud‏ @mgubrud 25 May 2020

          You can select who gets your reply by clicking on the list above the window where you enter the reply.

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