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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 May 2020

    Without commenting on the rest of this letter on the BCG vaccine (trials are underway, there's a shortage, etc.): WHO also trotted this evidence-free "false sense of security" argument against masks. That line will go down in same chapter of history as resistance to hand-washing.pic.twitter.com/123MFbA5tV

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 May 2020

        The rest of the process with BCG is working as one would expect: there are trials and concern with supply. But "false sense of security" can be applied to any improvement and it has been suggested (and debunked) for everything ranging from helmets to seat-belts to HIV prevention.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 May 2020

        Handwashing! False sense of security! Seatbelts! False sense of security! Helmets! False sense of security! It's all been debunked and it somehow only applies to interventions that the authors don't like. Keep an eye on it? Sure. I like data. A priori suggest it as a problem? No.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 May 2020

        For clarity, WHO is not against seat-belts, of course. Just listing debunked historical examples. But note that WHO official guidelines use "false sense of security" against interventions where they have concerns about shortages. Unjustified, evidence-free *and* will backfire.

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      1. Protik Islam-Jakobsson‏ @ikitorp 9 May 2020
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        I sometimes get the feeling if you closely examine the groups and decision processes that keep trotting out these asinine arguments, you'll find a bunch of Swedes and Brits.

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      2. Run more buses and trains (and nothing else)!‏ @HeadwaysMatter 9 May 2020
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        There are many papers debunking it, in all sorts of contexts! Seat belts https://www.jstor.org/stable/42956203?seq=1 …

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      1. JHarris‏ @JHarris22983169 9 May 2020
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        Why r u so 100% opposed to WHO? I would think facts would lead u to a more nuanced - but perhaps still mainly critical - position

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      2. post malone ergo propter malone‏ @PropterMalone 9 May 2020
        Replying to @mattyglesias @zeynep

        Think seatbelts definitely help and masks helping is still somewhat ambiguous?

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      2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 9 May 2020
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        The WHO acts like a first-year econ student who just discovered the concept of risk compensation and is using it to argue that any safety improvement "might, paradoxically, make things more dangerous."

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 May 2020
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        It's ridiculous plus striking correlation with their concerns about shortages *and* likely to backfire. Plus, it's striking how many science journalists parrot these lines without doing the research themselves. (There are many good ones but this is how you tell them apart).

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