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    1. Patrick Ruffini‏Verified account @PatrickRuffini 30 Apr 2020

      California did everything right, shutting down the state before it needed to. Deaths per 100,000: 5. Florida and Texas did everything wrong, acting too late, leaving beaches open. Deaths per 100,000: Florida: 6, Texas: 3.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Apr 2020
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      Their baseline risk wasn't the same though. They didn't start from the same place or with the same dynamics re:density/travel work patterns. Plus, beaches don't need to be closed, not a big factor. It's the crowded indoors/conferences/workplaces/public transportation that matter.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Apr 2020
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      I mean, there is interesting and unexplained variations and comparisons that I don't think anyone has yet explained, but Texas/CA isn't a good control case. OTOH, Florida nursing homes are probably important to watch and understand.

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        2. B Ehrfurth‏ @B_Ehrfurth 30 Apr 2020
          Replying to @SoCalCMH @zeynep @PatrickRuffini

          You're pointing out similarities in order to ignore differences. Connectivity (e.g., how many infections were coming in from China and Europe) and density of population are key differences. LA or Bay area could have looked a lot more like NYC if they didn't act early.

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        2. Bill Wilson‏ @Bill_Wilson_1 30 Apr 2020
          Replying to @taylorpeck @zeynep @PatrickRuffini

          A Costo is not the same. A meeting room (sitting around a table), or a church (singing) or ... have extended periods of close contact. That is the danger. For Costo - masks and hand sanitizer on entry and exit and you should be good. Beaches should be ok too.

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        1. Christy B  🦈 🐴‏ @CBeeghly 30 Apr 2020
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          I think there’re Covid deaths that have yet to be counted. Deaths attributed to other things bc they weren’t tested. CA is more densely populated state where TX has huge land mass & towns scattered. TX & FL don’t have good pub transprt where some CA cities do. 🍎 to 🍊 .

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        1. Michele Zanini‏ @MicheleZanini 30 Apr 2020
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          Last I checked (4/20) the share of 65+ fatalities from nursing homes was actually a little higher in FL vs. NYC. It's just that the hospitalizations and deaths/case are substantially lower in FL, despite a similar case age distribution. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯https://twitter.com/MicheleZanini/status/1252207007324680192?s=20 …

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          Michele Zanini @MicheleZanini
          @BaldingsWorld remember when we were puzzling over the vastly different hospitalization & fatality rates between NYC and FL, despite similar case age dist. are pretty much the same? Re-ran the numbers and differences persist. I suspected nursing home impact was a factor, but.. pic.twitter.com/84yYeuffRh
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        1.  🚨 RedHotFuzz  🚨‏ @RedHotFuzz 30 Apr 2020
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          Are you arguing that Florida nursing homes are a good control case? 🤔

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