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    1. Balaji Srinivasan‏Verified account @balajis 26 Apr 2020

      The virus has disrupted: - K-12 - bars - cities - retail - sports - hotels - airlines - offices - colleges - subways - concerts - medicine - Hollywood - immigration - conferences - supply chains - meat packing - movie theaters - aircraft carriers Do you think it all snaps back?

      279 replies 502 retweets 2,333 likes
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    2. Balaji Srinivasan‏Verified account @balajis 26 Apr 2020

      Balaji Srinivasan Retweeted Neeraj K. Agrawal

      Many of the foundational assumptions and/or economics of these sectors have changed forever. Pandemic insurance will be expensive. Digital alternatives will rise. And we may be just at the start. In other words, I like @NeerajKA but disagree with this: https://twitter.com/neerajka/status/1254546852445372421?s=21 …https://twitter.com/NeerajKA/status/1254546852445372421 …

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      Neeraj K. Agrawal @NeerajKA
      Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I think everything is going to go back to pretty much exactly how it was when all this is done. No big changes
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Apr 2020
      Replying to @balajis @NeerajKA

      Economics of all this will change, for sure. But let's say we get a solid vaccine and are unconstrained. (Otherwise, who knows?). Definite possibility that there will a massive outpouring of demand for all the freewheeling, crowded YOLO. Existential events do that. Roaring 20s.

      1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @balajis @NeerajKA

      I saw people discussing how parents will now realize that they can teach their kids more via homeschooling, and won't want glorified babysitting that is school. Other option: people will embrace the "glorified babysitting" with every ounce of their being and never complain again.

      3 replies 6 retweets 64 likes
    5. Balaji Srinivasan‏Verified account @balajis 27 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @NeerajKA

      Let's linger on this for a sec. The key is that you don't need 100% of parents to change their mind. Once even say 30% of parents categorize K-12 as "glorified babysitting", you can factor it into [a] distance learning for advanced math/science/etc via iPad and [b] childcare.

      4 replies 3 retweets 23 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Apr 2020
      Replying to @balajis @NeerajKA

      It just isn't the way children work, though. Homeschooling requires intensive planning and extra work to get socialization, and for many parents, part of the implicit goal is not just to control learning but to control socialization. Children need cohort/village/social learning.

      5 replies 2 retweets 25 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @balajis @NeerajKA

      The iPad advanced math had just as been available a year ago. Maybe a few kids/parents are now discovering this style works for them. Alternatively, I can see parents realizing what a loss lack of school is for small humans. Real work of growing up is socialization, not skills.

      1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
    8. Zach Is Hiring  🦇 🔊‏ @zherring 27 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @balajis @NeerajKA

      FWIW: Nothing I've seen frm public schooled peers indicates it provides socialization in a better way. A lot of the community you need for socialization via homeschooling might already be in place, depending on geo (town of 80k, homeschool group had 100 participating families).

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zherring @balajis @NeerajKA

      How much of the work of homeschooling in those families was done by women? Did they also work outside the home? Homeschooling is a job.

      6:24 AM - 27 Apr 2020
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        2. Zach Is Hiring  🦇 🔊‏ @zherring 27 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @balajis @NeerajKA

          Uh, totally agreed, it *is* a 22-30 hr job and the work disproportionately falls on women. Wasn't making anything counter to that point, just saying from personal experience and some studies, the "socialization" argument against HS is incomplete.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zherring @balajis @NeerajKA

          Well, sure, if someone does the job that school used to do.

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