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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      You don’t understand what the point of masks is.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/dont-wear-mask-yourself/610336/ …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @AureliaCotta and

      (Masks for the community aren’t PPE).

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    3. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      I'm completely aware that community masks aren't PPE and I get the point about them trying to stop the spray from the wearers mouth---the human factor is the problem. The kind of people who voluntarily wear masks now, are already careful and/or trained. That's not most humans

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    4. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @zeynep and

      And disagreeing with you doesn't mean I don't understand the point---I get it, I just work on the assumption that human beings are far more sloppy and error prone than we believe. Carseats are a perfect example. We know they matter but almost everyone still uses them incorrectly

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      You don’t understand safety devices then. Your points about incorrect misuse were without evidence, irrelevant or confuse community masks with PPE. And, of course kids are safer in a world with carseats. And where on earth are you getting “almost everyone uses them incorrectly”??

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    6. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      Here is just one source, I have plenty more. https://www.safekids.org/post/more-half-car-seats-are-not-installed-correctly …

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    7. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @zeynep and

      And that is just installation, never mind usage. Based on NHTSA studies, more than 95% of car seats are used exactly as they should behttps://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/alarming-study-only-5-of-parents-use-infant-car-seats-with-no-mistakes/ …

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      I’ll look at carseats. Children in cars are safer today. But either way, nothing like that for masks because the alternative is no masks. Since these are not PPE, all that matters is covering mouth/nose. They are better than no masks. “Incorrect use” does not increase risk.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @AureliaCotta and

      Most of the talk of incorrect use from either studies for a recommendations about PPE. Entire populations of many many countries are perfectly able to wear surgical or cloth masks. There’s nothing complicated here.

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    10. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      They have to learn how and embrace the habits of hand-washing and not touching their face, adjusting the mask, and having enough that they can wash and reuse. Like condoms, it takes time for people to learn how to use them correctly. Those took years for the public to adapt to

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      Read the article. What happens if you touch your mask?

      8:15 PM - 26 Apr 2020
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        2. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

          If you stick your finger/hand inside and breathe droplets and then shake someone's hand....or say readjust it, pull it down, exhale germs on it and everyone else, then pull it back on, well that's not helpful

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        3. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
          Replying to @AureliaCotta @zeynep and

          You obviously have more faith in humanities ability to learn and do things correctly than I do....And that is fine. I'm just saying, I look at other safety devices and how long it took the public to correctly use them, and I wonder if there is any point. That's all.

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