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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. David Hicks‏ @ALL_CAPS 26 Apr 2020

      It seems like the success of any ‘re-opening’ strategy hinges on widespread use, and therefore *availability*, of PPE…especially masks. Do don’t even have enough PPE to safeguard healthcare workers, let alone the general workforce. What’s the plan there?

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    2. Mr. Whiffs On Breakaways‏ @marcel_g 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @ALL_CAPS

      Yeah went for a walk yesterday near lansdowne and bank st, saw almost no one wearing masks. People mostly keeping their distance. But still, it’s frustrating, because while testing and tracing seems to be the key for control, masks seem to be very helpful.

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    3. Mr. Whiffs On Breakaways‏ @marcel_g 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      Read in a @tomaspueyo piece that 60% of people wearing 60% effective masks can reduce the R0 close to 1. Czechia went from zero masks to 100% in 3 days, and their infection curve has fully bent.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. David Hicks‏ @ALL_CAPS 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @marcel_g @tomaspueyo

      Interesting. I’ve been operating under the assumption that masks are way less effective…so that’s positive if validates.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Mr. Whiffs On Breakaways‏ @marcel_g 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @ALL_CAPS

      Yeah, I’m going to have to reread because I can’t remember if there were conditions, but it lines up with what @zeynep has been writing too. Even homemade masks make a difference, and they make places like the grocery store a lot less infectious.

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    6. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS @zeynep

      Masks only work if used correctly. And seriously, everytime someone slides their mask down under their nose or under their chin and breathes on the outside---may as well throw it away. Same if they touch anything and touch their eyes, or slide fingers under the edge of a mask

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      You don’t understand what the point of masks is.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/dont-wear-mask-yourself/610336/ …

      1 reply 3 retweets 13 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @AureliaCotta and

      (Masks for the community aren’t PPE).

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      I'm completely aware that community masks aren't PPE and I get the point about them trying to stop the spray from the wearers mouth---the human factor is the problem. The kind of people who voluntarily wear masks now, are already careful and/or trained. That's not most humans

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    10. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @zeynep and

      And disagreeing with you doesn't mean I don't understand the point---I get it, I just work on the assumption that human beings are far more sloppy and error prone than we believe. Carseats are a perfect example. We know they matter but almost everyone still uses them incorrectly

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Apr 2020
      Replying to @AureliaCotta @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

      You don’t understand safety devices then. Your points about incorrect misuse were without evidence, irrelevant or confuse community masks with PPE. And, of course kids are safer in a world with carseats. And where on earth are you getting “almost everyone uses them incorrectly”??

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        2. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @marcel_g @ALL_CAPS

          Here is just one source, I have plenty more. https://www.safekids.org/post/more-half-car-seats-are-not-installed-correctly …

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        3. Aurelia Cotta‏ @AureliaCotta 26 Apr 2020
          Replying to @AureliaCotta @zeynep and

          And that is just installation, never mind usage. Based on NHTSA studies, more than 95% of car seats are used exactly as they should behttps://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/alarming-study-only-5-of-parents-use-infant-car-seats-with-no-mistakes/ …

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