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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Apr 2020

      I did my gut check with local Facebook groups this morning, and indeed, one person had posted an article about getting to herd immunity was immediately jumped on with "so you want to kill grandma, you murderer!". Reality is we have to open up, but with preparation and caution.

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    3. Aaron Bady‏ @zunguzungu 24 Apr 2020
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      Is there a scenario where "herd immunity" doesn't mean millions of deaths?

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    9. David Foulser‏ @dfoulser 24 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @zunguzungu

      Waiting generates more PPE, medical devices, maybe more tests, allows states to hire contact tracers, reduces # cases to level contact tracing can support, gives contact tracing app developers time to code and ship.

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    10. David Foulser‏ @dfoulser 24 Apr 2020
      Replying to @dfoulser @zeynep @zunguzungu

      While we are all hunkered down at home and cratering the economy, many are working to get ahead of this.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Apr 2020
      Replying to @dfoulser @zunguzungu

      That is an obvious part of the discussion. Look, I wrote what I believe is the the first mainstream article on why we needed to "flatten the curve" in February. Now I see is denial; that barring amazing medical breakthroughs this could be a long, long time that requires strategy.

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        2. David Foulser‏ @dfoulser 24 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @zunguzungu

          Yup. I'm just saying that when we are balancing deaths vs the economy, wearing your masks and likewise keeping R low can enable solutions we don't have today. Not an either/or strategy discussion.

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        3. David Foulser‏ @dfoulser 24 Apr 2020
          Replying to @dfoulser @zeynep @zunguzungu

          One thing I like in the Howard paper, beyond possible pushing R below 1, is the "sense of empowerment" argument. And several thousand dollar benefit per mask worn at population level. Nice work.

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