If 80% of transmission is within familes and you are not addressing it, then you can't achieve R<1 with masks. Why mislead?
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Replying to @yaneerbaryam
It's a population model! That's why I added. As for household transmission, depends on how the index case in the household is getting infected in the first place. If yes, same impact. So issue isn't household or not but for example, fomites/PPE availability for HCW etc.
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Replying to @zeynep
Please don't obfuscate, R/R0 is a societal transmission. If you didn't model societal transmission don't refer to R/R0. Call it something else.
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Replying to @yaneerbaryam
It is R and their full paper is linked here and shown on the chart. It's from the modeling group at Hong Kong Baptist University. I only mentioned households because I was thinking what happens if we never get PPE for healthcare workers. Different Q.https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.07353
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Replying to @zeynep
They are analyzing multiple things in parallel. Not just masks. I don't necessarily agree with their model but it is not just about masks.
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Replying to @yaneerbaryam
Of course! I completely agree, and our article says that masks are not replacing social distancing measures. I go out of my way to emphasize that every-time I write or talk. Are you worried that people will misunderstand? If anything, I think masks can remind people to stay away!
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Replying to @zeynep
Yes. Look at the figure. I already attached the heading in a previous note. It is what people will see and only that.
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Replying to @yaneerbaryam
Ah, without reading anything else? The text is clear. Let me go back to editors/co-authors and see if we can squeeze in more words there. It's more of a graph labeling issue, text is clear. I am not at all an advocate of stopping distancing. Just adding masks.
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Replying to @zeynep
Good. Thanks. Please make this clear also on Twitter.
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Replying to @yaneerbaryam
Sure. I don't see why people would take "stop social distancing" from that—would have to look at a single graph label in an article, and makes that big a decision without reading a word of the article. But okay, I'll ask others! Don't want to mislead for sure.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci
I added to the thread! https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1253067119832563714 … Everyone I worked with has been clear on this. We keep saying "in addition to distancing and hygiene" every chance we get. I think people understand those by now, but for some reason, masks are still misunderstood. Hence the focus.
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