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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Balaji Srinivasan

      Look, yes, it's hard but we can distinguish against self-serving, profit-driven quackery/actually dangerous advice *and* genuine scientific disagreement. WHO is not The Oracle; the science of a pandemic is evolving. WHO itself is evolving its views.https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1252715349079777280 …

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      Balaji SrinivasanVerified account @balajis
      Below are just a few of the most egregious cases where WHO got it wrong. These aren’t infallible authorities. They get some things right but have made many mistakes. For YouTube to censor rebuttals of WHO is a global public health hazard. https://mobile.twitter.com/austen/status/1245689629178650624 … https://twitter.com/Austen/status/1245689629178650624 …
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

      Platforms shouldn't fight the last war. If fighting misinformation and papering over all disagreement get conflated, we won't be in a good place. Have y'all ever seen the way real scientists argue things out? It's very different than quackery or selling vitamins to "cure" COVID.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Machine Pun Kelly

          A quick clarification saying that will solve the problem. It’s not a minor concern—it was so hard to publicly contradict the WHO at first, even with evidence. I saw stuff taken down for advocating for masks because it got conflated with other things.https://twitter.com/kellyscaletta/status/1252736098268299265 …

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          Machine Pun KellyVerified account @KellyScaletta
          Replying to @jackbabbetter @zeynep @xeni
          The CONTEXT is fake cures. They're not taking down videos critical of the WHO.
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Eternity Research Group’s Excess Death Program

          I get that. I couldn't find the video elsewhere, and be that as it may, I don't want trolls and anti-vaxxers to claim this mantle. There is an evidence-based anti-misinformation case against making WHO into The Oracle while also fighting the quackery.https://twitter.com/ilrosso_/status/1252742782453678080 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Eternity Research Group’s Excess Death Program @ilrosso_
          Replying to @zeynep
          the original person you retweeted is commenting in bad faith, he is a idiosyncratic troll.
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Machine Pun Kelly

          She says the context is only fake cures, not WHO in general. Also, the original tweeter is clearly acting in bad faith, but I couldn't find the longer video. I will look it up and will either delete and retweet without the first video or better, be wrong!https://twitter.com/KellyScaletta/status/1252748921329397760 …

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          Machine Pun KellyVerified account @KellyScaletta
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          CLEARLY, the conversation was about pedaling false cures, no the WHO.
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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

          Okay, deleted top tweet (the quoted person is not against misinformation or quackery). Here's the longer video. I'm still not convinced that YouTube will only remove fake cures if they contradict the WHO and would really like to see some clarification.https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/04/19/inside-youtubes-numerous-policy-changes-during-the-pandemic.cnn/video/playlists/business-reliable-sources/ …

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        1. Rowdy Burns‏ @rowdyburns1978 21 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          How many quacks are posting videos on YouTube compared to the amount of real scientists posting videos arguing between each other?

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        1. The End Times‏ @TheAgeofShoddy 21 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          The more that censorship becomes an accepted part of the landscape, and the more tools are provided and endorsed for that purpose, the greater the number of actors who will correctly recognize the power of utilizing that infrastructure for their own ends. Thus has it always been.

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        1. Eric Morse‏ @eriq49 21 Apr 2020
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          They haven't seen and they don't want to know. Politicians and media (not necessarily in that order) demand certainties. Canadian PM Trudeau got hammered three days running by media for refusing to 'divulge' a 'model'.

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        1. Sinyal minyal yok‏ @CoinMaker11 21 Apr 2020
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          Yes but chairman of the who seemed so sure when he was saying this virus is not airborne. They should have stated that they are not a reliable source for this virus.

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        2. Radek Czajka  ⚡ 🇵🇱 🇪🇺‏ @RadekCzajka 21 Apr 2020
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          If YouTube can't distinguish between quackery and real scientific discussions, then it's just not a good place for those discussions. Not spreading medical misinformation is basic responsibility of any medium. We'd be outraged if we'd see quackery in our TV or newspapers.

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        3. Ausir‏ @VaultAusir 21 Apr 2020
          Replying to @RadekCzajka @zeynep

          We can all agree that fighting quackery is good, but WHO has (especially in recent months) proven to be quite fallible. Using it as the only source is not necessarily a good idea.

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