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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Justin Gray

      Georgia is considering opening retail, restaurants, nail salons, in-person worship and other indoor places next week. Please feel free to share the study on top of this thread with your friends there: one asymptomatic person in a restaurant infected 10.https://twitter.com/JustinGrayWSB/status/1252330712092590080 …

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      Justin GrayVerified account @JustinGrayWSB
      Restaurants will be able to reopen to dine in service and theaters will be able to reopen on Monday April 27
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Apr 2020

      Check this example flagged by @jeremyphoward in his super useful FAQ on masks. *94* out of 97 cases in a building worked on the same floor! It really suggests transmission through air is much more important than surfaces like elevator/doorknobs. Mask up! https://www.fast.ai/2020/04/20/skeptics-masks/ …pic.twitter.com/XVF9WeJbig

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

      Can't believe this gets published by the BBC, this late! If you're worried masks can be contaminated by other people's cough and sneezes, what do you think happens to YOUR MOUTH AND NOSE IF you aren't wearing a mask? The other two also make no sense.🙄 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51205344 …pic.twitter.com/PaPnE1490S

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020

      This "false sense of security" argument has been trotted out against many safety devices (seat-belts, helmets) and the evidence does not bear it out. No reason/data to think different for face masks. If anything, it's the other way around. See more here: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0203/v1 …pic.twitter.com/oIPsKROAuH

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    5. Nihari‏ @NihariFan 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      not sure if you've encountered this, but in my experience, with mask mandate now if effect, people are ignoring 6 feet/ample space inside grocery stores (and other such areas). If pre-mask 5% of patrons walked too closed/stood close/whisked past you, it's easily 30% now

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    6. Nihari‏ @NihariFan 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @NihariFan @zeynep

      even happening in parks on trails. Makes me even more queasy to do necessary activities b/c now I expect people to be shoving and being close to you. Have read your mask advice from the beginning and it's great value, but I think practical results in US might be very weird.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @NihariFan

      I have seen the opposite around here, and other countries seem to be doing exact opposite too. That said, it would be something to watch for if for some reason, the US was that different! A mask is unusual in the US and really signals "what the heck" from what I can tell.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @NihariFan

      So it would be important to emphasize that it's not a replacement and empower people to do the right thing--and watch both behavior and numbers.

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    9. Nihari‏ @NihariFan 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      yes, emphasis doesnt seem to be there + as you've documented, erroneous/ill-intentioned advice at onset left public w/ bad info. Mask mandate came out of nowhere in Week 4 of shelter-at-home. Anecdotal evidence of friends around me is similar (ppl now dangerously close in stores)

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @NihariFan

      Man, we've screwed up this messaging so badly, no? I'd definitely recommend watching numbers and messaging. Whenever I write about this, I always emphasize *in addition to, not replacement for.* But other countries have very positive data so far!

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @NihariFan

      I'd say even if we somehow found replacement behaviors in the US due to screwed-up messaging, I'd say that we should address the messaging rather than take away a powerful tool—it's really to important a lever to give up.

      12:04 PM - 21 Apr 2020
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        1. Nihari‏ @NihariFan 21 Apr 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          Agreed. Definitely needed for the long term anyways, since who knows when we're out of this.

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